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Old 04-30-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Big 10 Report: Conference Realignment
A source in St. Louis familiar with the situation told NewsCenter 16 Thursday afternoon that Missouri will leave the Big XII and soon join the Big 10. Other schools expected to follow the Tigers are Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and Nebraska.

Many have speculated that such an expansion would include Notre Dame but ND athletic director Jack Swarbrick told me today that the Irish prefer to stay independent in football and in the Big East for other sports. Swarbrick said maintaining football Independence is such a part of what Notre Dame is.

He went on to say the Big East is a great partner for the University in other sports.

"We do have to monitor what is going on," Swarbrick said. "There will be significant shifts. "Hopefully we can navigate them by keeping our football independent and keeping our Big East affiliation because that is what we care about."

The move of Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers to the Big Ten from the Big East could categorically change the landscape of the Big East itself. Thus, what Swarbrick is referring to when stating the University must continue to monitor what is going on.

The interview with Swarbrick was done before the late afternoon announcement.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:18 PM   #1696
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whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.
KU does not have a football program that would be a credit to a major conference. They had one run break up decades of futility and now are back to the doldrums. It was a nice Cinderella story but no one is going to mistake that program for a major conf. caliber program. The already have bottom feeders like Michigan State and Indiana, Illinois, etc.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:20 PM   #1697
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whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.
Your Football Program compared to KSU's? I'm sure that makes you sleep better at night.

Since we are talking about football here, and relevance, how about KU's B12 Conference Championships, or even your ability to get to a North Title game?

On a separate note, wasn't the KSU-KU basketball game in Manhattan ESPN's most watched TV game this year? I don't have a link, but thought I had heard that.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:21 PM   #1698
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It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.
Still splits it, though.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:22 PM   #1699
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Your Football Program compared to KSU's? I'm sure that makes you sleep better at night.

Since we are talking about football here, and relevance, how about KU's B12 Conference Championships, or even your ability to get to a North Title game?

On a separate note, wasn't the KSU-KU basketball game in Manhattan ESPN's most watched TV game this year? I don't have a link, but thought I had heard that.
Shit I thought you were a KU fan all this time.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:23 PM   #1700
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It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.
Define dominates? There are 3 college teams that are closely followed in the KC market, and maybe even a 4th (with NU). I think you are bastardizing the term "dominates".
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:23 PM   #1701
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Shit I thought you were a KU fan all this time.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:24 PM   #1702
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It's not like KU has this "zilch TV market" like all you keep saying.

Kansas City is 31st. Not great but far from nothing.

KU dominates the Kansas City market.


Dominate? Please.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:25 PM   #1703
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I don't. If we had to live through the bullshit that is the Big XII to end up in the Big 10 on the other side, it's been an extremely productive 15 or so years.

No doubt athletic $$ and TV viewership are primarily driving this thing, but don't look past the academic benefits.
There is the part that is not being talked about in the short term but will pay off as many if not more benefits as the athletics to the schools joining the B10. Props for seeing beyond the obvious.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:27 PM   #1704
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apparently Notre Dame is trying to squeeze some academic things out of the Big 10 to join.
Have you read any specifics as to what that might be?
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:27 PM   #1705
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The residents of Lincoln voted to pass a new basketball arena. This probably played a part for any future football national championship celebrations at Nebraska.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:31 PM   #1706
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The day University of Colorado athletic director Mike Bohn allows a bunch of loud-mouthed, money-grubbing Texans to dictate how the Buffaloes run their business is also the day he should be fired.

Let me get this straight: During stressful economic times when Colorado families endure a 9 percent tuition hike to enroll their kids on the Boulder campus, Bohn really wants a ticket on a jet plane to fly off and play football in a conference spread from Seattle to Los Angeles to Lubbock, Texas?

That would pretty near be the dumbest move Bohn has made since allowing Dan Hawkins to name his son as starting quarterback of the Buffaloes.

At a juncture when college sports threaten to spin out of control, Colorado needs to get a grip.

The Buffaloes have no business in the Pac-10 Conference, especially if the league expands to 16 teams, and the nearest rival to CU would be located nearly 600 miles down the road from Folsom Field.

There's a whole lot of pimping in college sports these days, as conferences flirt with realignment. The same educators who decry the evils of a football playoff now peddle their student-athletes like pieces of meat.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, Buffaloes. But you don't have the chips to be a major player in this high-stakes game.

The University of Texas is calling the shots as conferences nationwide greedily chase the beaucoup bucks to be pocketed from football television rights.

With no shame, it seems every league lustily dreams of hooking up with the Longhorns. The Big Ten. The Pac-10. What's the next rumor? Texas to replace Jacksonville in the AFC South?

But following Texas, whose $125 million athletic budget is more than twice what CU can afford to spend on sports, anywhere in this new college landscape would be a fool's errand for the Buffs.

Why?

If you're constantly chasing the Longhorns' tail, the view never changes. And it stinks.

There's no denying the Big 12 Conference, where the Buffs now reside, faces a crisis. But the league has been in trouble since 1994, when the Cornhuskers, Sooners and friends sold their souls to four teams from Texas. Well, the bill to pay the devil is due. Shouldn't we all have seen this day of reckoning coming?


As Nebraska football legend Tom Osborne so accurately noted, the center of gravity in the league has slowly moved south. Want to ruin something good?

Texas fry it.

You think the Longhorns really give a hoot about Big 12 tradition, much less the prosperity of Kansas State or Iowa State?

No wonder Missouri wants out, anxiously waiting for an invitation from the Big Ten.

The Buffaloes could use some creative thinking. So here's one modest proposal: What if Bohn shopped CU to the Mountain West with the idea of becoming a 12-team league eligible for a conference championship game in football?

As early as this week, the Mountain West could extend an invitation to Boise State as its 10th member. Add the Broncos, who finished No. 4 in the final polls last season, to a football roster that already includes Texas Christian, Brigham Young and Utah, then you have teams with BCS muscle to flex against almost any league in the country.

By joining the Mountain West, CU would enhance rivalries with Colorado State, Air Force and Wyoming, an idea which makes marketing sense, to say nothing of more sensible travel than the Buffs hitching a ride to Waco.

Make it an even dozen teams in the Mountain West by signing up Houston and its TV market to bundle with Denver, Dallas, San Diego and Salt Lake City. If you dare to dream even bigger, go to 14 teams, grabbing Kansas and Kansas State when the Big 12 implodes.

Sound a little crazy?

Sure.

But in this age of unholy alliances, Bohn needs a bold plan that gives CU more than a prayer of keeping the budget in line while winning championships.

The Buffaloes don't need to roam all the way to an expanded Pac-10, begging for a handout in exchange for being the road kill of Southern Cal or Texas.

Now is the time when a university athletic department must reveal if it is about anything more than chasing a buck.

Make a stand, CU.

Here, in the Rocky Mountains.

That's home.


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Old 06-07-2010, 02:31 PM   #1707
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whatever ...

KU is a Nationally relevant Basketball program ... top 5 all-time. It brings national exposure to the NCAA tourney.

Basketball IS relevant financially ... just not as much as football.

Besides ... KU does have a decent football program. It's been better than KSU in recent years.

Academically KU is also a solid school

KU's television market doesn't suck ... it's just not great

KU is marginally qualified in just about every category but not enough to have any other "issues" and still make it.

laugh all you want but if the Big 12 really does implode KSU is mid conference bound ... period. KU has an outside shot if they can get the board of regents to split KU/KSU.
Wow...you just don't understand life.
KU has no real TV market.
NU gives visiting teams more money from a football game than KU would make.
Academics...KSU has more Rhodes and Truman Scholars than KU.

This is set up just like the state of Michigan.
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Your Football Program compared to KSU's? I'm sure that makes you sleep better at night.

Since we are talking about football here, and relevance, how about KU's B12 Conference Championships, or even your ability to get to a North Title game?

On a separate note, wasn't the KSU-KU basketball game in Manhattan ESPN's most watched TV game this year? I don't have a link, but thought I had heard that.
i said the "in recent years" for football ... but i suppose with KSU the ability to read is suspect.

KSU football has sucked since Bill Snyder left and didn't stop sucking until Bill Snyder returned.

joke all you want ... truth is truth

basketball KU > KSU
t.v. market KU > KSU
academically KU > KSU
football KU = KSU (not historically, but right now. Yes, KSU seems to be trending up and KU seems to be trending down)

for a BCS conference, KU is a crown jewel in Basketball and middle of the road school to beat upon in football. Middle ground t.v. market and solid academically.

in Bill Snyders prime he brought KSU to the BCS level in football but beyond that KSU just doesn't make it to a BCS level in anything.
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KU does not have a football program that would be a credit to a major conference. They had one run break up decades of futility and now are back to the doldrums. It was a nice Cinderella story but no one is going to mistake that program for a major conf. caliber program. The already have bottom feeders like Michigan State and Indiana, Illinois, etc.

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i said the "in recent years" for football ... but i suppose with KSU the ability to read is suspect.

KSU football has sucked since Bill Snyder left and didn't stop sucking until Bill Snyder returned.

joke all you want ... truth is truth

basketball KU > KSU
t.v. market KU > KSU
academically KU > KSU
football KU = KSU (not historically, but right now. Yes, KSU seems to be trending up and KU seems to be trending down)

for a BCS conference, KU is a crown jewel in Basketball and middle of the road school to beat upon in football. Middle ground t.v. market and solid academically.

in Bill Snyders prime he brought KSU to the BCS level in football but beyond that KSU just doesn't make it to a BCS level in anything.
Didn't Kstates basketball team make it further then Ku's? Mizzou has gone further the last few years as well. You think anyone outside of Kansas remembers KU's title or do they remember them losing to Bucknell, Bradley, and Northern Iowa?
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