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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins

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Old 03-24-2022, 11:20 AM   #1681
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If Mahomes restructures and we signed OBJ to a deal, we could go from $28M to like $45M I’d cap space.

Tons of flexibility to add vets via trade or FA.
Stupid to restructure PM. We have 28M in space.

Only restructure if $ is needed otherwise it just makes PMs cap hit more than it needs to be in future years.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:21 AM   #1682
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Veach allowed everything to be completely dictated by the Fade. He slow played negotiations like a moron and then got caught with his pants down by letting another team act first and drive the price up.

The dismantling of the Dorsey dynasty is well underway thanks to this clown.
Do you ignore reality? There was no slow playing of negotiations. Hill wasn't going to sign until the free agent WR carousel got sorted out and that included Adams who was widely presumed to get record-breaking money.

In what alternate reality would it have made sense for Hill to agree to his extension earlier than that?

I'd say to stop because you're embarrassing yourself, but that hasn't stopped you in months.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:23 AM   #1683
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Chiefs got Mahomes and Kareem Hunt in the same draft. Hunt I'm convinced would be on his way to a HOF career if he just stayed in the damned hotel room, or if the TMZ asshole was a Chiefs fan instead of a Pats fan.
Or if Clark Hunt had any sort of presence to not be a reactionary idiot.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:29 AM   #1684
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Stupid to restructure PM. We have 28M in space.

Only restructure if $ is needed otherwise it just makes PMs cap hit more than it needs to be in future years.
We actually have less than that after these last 8-ish small signings, but your point stands.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:29 AM   #1685
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We kept Frank Clark and gave Hill away for peanuts. As everybody in our division improved their roster over the off-season.

I don't know what the hell Veach is thinking. But you don't let a hall a fame player go in his prime. Especially when your Franchise quarterback already has exactly dog shit for weapons at the wide receiver position.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:30 AM   #1686
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and that’s why he’ll probably be here through his entire contract.
It would be a sad day if Kelce left.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:31 AM   #1687
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We actually have less than that after these last 8-ish small signings, but your point stands.
EDIT: 9 signings.

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Old 03-24-2022, 11:33 AM   #1688
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:34 AM   #1689
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Veach allowed everything to be completely dictated by the Fade. He slow played negotiations like a moron and then got caught with his pants down by letting another team act first and drive the price up.

The dismantling of the Dorsey dynasty is well underway thanks to this clown.
Dorsey was Andy Reid puppet get over Dorsey he got fired and can't keep a GM job anywhere.


No matter the draft picks we pick you are going hate them and bitch and moan about them. No matter what the Chiefs do you don't like. Did Veach **** your wife? Or when is the last time you got laid man? I'm in a lot of pain from breathing issues but I'm not a miserable fan that can't enjoy all the success that Andy Reid and Veach gave us. Also as the years go by so will any draft pick from Dorsey they won't stay here forever.


Veach revamped our offensive line that was depleted in one offseason. This is going be one of the best offensive lines in the NFL that will be like Dick Vermiel Offensive line only nastier Trey Smith likes to bully linebackers or any defender he is going pancake. We haven't had a losing record under Andy Reid and we won't again this year we will be in contention for a Super Bowl.

You are just a hater . The first pick of the Draft you will pop off how bad of a pick it was and so on every pick you won't like . Please go find another team or something. We are still building a dynasty and now we got the tools to do it because of a trade that nets 5 draft picks. One guy that defenses figured out or 5 fresh flesh that develop and dominate.

Look how many people rip on you and you still don't ****ing get it. I'm going say Veach ****ed your wife or your sister or your mom.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:35 AM   #1690
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We kept Frank Clark and gave Hill away for peanuts. As everybody in our division improved their roster over the off-season.

I don't know what the hell Veach is thinking. But you don't let a hall a fame player go in his prime. Especially when your Franchise quarterback already has exactly dog shit for weapons at the wide receiver position.
I'm surprised they got what they did considering it was contract time and Adam's big deal. Id hardly call those picks + cap room, 'peanuts'.
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:38 AM   #1691
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We kept Frank Clark and gave Hill away for peanuts. As everybody in our division improved their roster over the off-season.

I don't know what the hell Veach is thinking. But you don't let a hall a fame player go in his prime. Especially when your Franchise quarterback already has exactly dog shit for weapons at the wide receiver position.
Peanuts? We got 5 draft picks. Holy shit that's a pretty good haul and gives us ammo in the draft to get solid players and revamp our D line and get pass rushers and we have our own picks so we are loaded with picks. This may go down as best draft ever next to drafting Patrick Mahomes.

Veach was thinking long term success and whats best for the team. No way was Tyreek worth the most WR money because that screws our cap space and not be able retain Orlando Brown
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Old 03-24-2022, 11:45 AM   #1692
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I'm surprised they got what they did considering it was contract time and Adam's big deal. Id hardly call those picks + cap room, 'peanuts'.
I don't know how the numbers compare up exactly. But it feels like we received better compensation in the Jared Allen trade. Allen was a great player but Hill is a hall a famer. Either way I am not trading Hill for anything less than multiple first round picks.

Other than Mahommes he was the best player on our team. Super bowl teams don't trade away a hall a fame player in their prime.
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OH NOES, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

I love Hill. I wish him the best in Miami. Hell, I root for him except when he plays against us. BUT....Professional Football is a business. He went to get PAID.I will root harder for his replacement. Veach negotiated the best deal he could. I'm good. We good.
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