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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:23 AM   #1651
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:27 AM   #1652
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:28 AM   #1653
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I mean, As upset as I am to lose him, I can’t blame him. I personally think it’s greedy, but he is now literally set for life with this guaranteed deal. The NFL gives 0 ****s about players, so once in a while…players have to get victories for themselves. Tyreek loves KC, and trust me he’s gonna miss us, most specifically PM15. There aren’t or shouldn’t be hard feelings in a business type transaction.

What blows is this deal, Devantes, have shattered the WR market…
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:28 AM   #1654
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:29 AM   #1655
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:30 AM   #1656
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I mean, As upset as I am to lose him, I can’t blame him. I personally think it’s greedy, but he is now literally set for life…
Greedy? Just like any American, he is entitled to make as much money as he can possibly make. Especially nfl players who typically have short careers. Good for him.
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:30 AM   #1657
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I think you'll get very little argument that the 2018 draft was a complete disaster.

But from that point forward he's been good to very good.

Thornhill, Fenton and Allegrett are all very good picks for where they were taken. And even Hardman is giving us a fair amount more value than MANY guys taken in the 2nd that year. And he was taken near the back of it. Moreover, he really hit his stride down the stretch last year and there's reason to believe he can continue to progress.

Gay and Sneed have been very good picks, even Danna has been a contributor as a 5th round afterthought.

And last year obviously had Bolton and Humphrey, but Smith was a MONSTER of a pick as well. A 6th rounder becomes a rookie starting G and plays the position as well as all but a handful of guys in the league? Lord, that's an amazing pick.

HRs: Bolton, Humphrey, Smith, Sneed

Doubles off the wall: Gay and Thornhill, both of whom are likely HRs but/for injuries. Hardman's a double but he's rounding second and may make that into a hustle triple before all is said and done. Fenton is also a double but could easily be more than that if he emerges in a starting role this year.

Solid singles: Danna and Allegretti - 3rd day depth contributors are absolutely vital to maintaining roster depth. Nnadi has been a 3 year starter who is staying in the league after his rookie deal as a 3rd rounder - that's more than most will get from that pick.

He has 8 good to very good picks in 4 drafts with a few more really solid ones in there. Yes, Speaks busted in a BIG way and CEH has disappointed, but that's the draft for you. Nobody bats 1.000.

If you add 2-3 starters per draft to your club, you're doing extremely well.

After a rocky start, there is little to nothing to complain about with Veach's draft record.

2021
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Bolton 58
Humphrey 63
Smith 228

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Old 03-24-2022, 10:31 AM   #1658
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:36 AM   #1661
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Old 03-24-2022, 10:36 AM   #1662
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Denzel Ward is one of the better corners in the NFL, I'd say he absolutely didn't whiff on that one.

A lot of teams weren't all-in on Josh Allen, he had some major warts coming out. From a pure passing standpoint, the two have produced similarly. Allen's running is what's actually set him apart. Allen is still Jekyl and Hyde when it comes to passing performances but he's improving much more than Baker has. So, do you fault Dorsey? I think only in hindsight. I also think coaching has a lot to do with Baker not developing as well, and that is also on Dorsey to an extent.

Dorsey though, he's the type of guy you really want in a role as a Director of College Scouting or even of Player Personnel (he's good at picking through other teams' trash). I think you put other guys with him that are really good at their roles and a competent GM and it's fuel for something great. I think he's in the right role in Detroit but Detroit has issues elsewhere that doesn't help.
Denzel Ward was great his rookie season. Since then he has been 'meh'. Yes, I realize he made the Pro Bowl this year, but so did Frank Clark. His ONLY impact play this year was a 99 yard pick 6 of Joe Burrow. That is what put him in the Pro Bowl, nothing more.

As far as Allen goes, all 4 of the QB's (Baker, Allen, Darnold and Rosen) were held up together as Top 10 picks. It was just a matter of picking the right one. John Dorsey picked wrong. If people are gonna roast the Bears for picking Trubisky over Mahomes, they need to be willing to do the same for the Browns going with Baker. He was basically picked for his 'moxy', not his physical skills and traits. That's a pretty big mistake by a GM who supposedly made his hay as a scout. As far as faulting Dorsey, I'm only faulting Dorsey for making the pick because (some) people are sucking his dick over picking Kelce, Hill and Mahomes, as if he did it in a vacuum and should receive all the credit for it. I don't agree with that, obviously, but if that is the position some are going to take, then they need to be equally willing to roast him for his decisions on TWO Top 5 picks in the same draft. Again, he could have had Allen and Derwin James, but went with Baker and Ward.

And, for the record, the whole discussion originated from BR seeming to suggest Veach was a failure for picking Hardman over DK, while singing John Dorsey's praises, and failing to address his picking Baker and Ward over Allen and James. Neither GM's picks were a 'bust', as Hardman has been a solid NFL player, while Baker has been an okay QB at times and Ward has been an above average to good DB.

Would the Chiefs have been better off if Veach picked DK over Mecole Hardman? Of course. But imagine the Browns today if Dorsey had selected Josh Allen and Derwin James with his first 2 picks instead of Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward. Scary thought.
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Terrible. Greedy asshole with a POS agent and a completely incompetent GM who horribly bungled contract negotiations all led to this.

Can't believe this is real.
Did you not even read what his agent said? The Chiefs were making progress on an extension right up until the Raiders signed Adams. Then everything changed and it was obvious that Tyreek was going to want more than the Chiefs were going to have. So they gave him permission to seek a trade.

No one bungled anything. And stop crying like a little bitch. You act like the Chiefs just traded Mahomes.
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