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It's basic. God is infinite. Why can't the universe be infinite? Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. I don't see why they can't coexist peacefully without someone being burned at the stake.
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If you are comfortable with showing your kids crap that is make believe then you might as well show them Creationism or some other nonsense. |
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He also wasn't some poor suffering martyr. Playing fast and loose with historical facts is a sure fire way to lose credibility in my book. And now it calls into question all the very REAL science that is being taught by giving the whackos a legitimate LIE told by the show as "proof" that the whole thing is questionable. Stick to the ****ing facts, it's not hard to do. |
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My burned at the stake comment was not about Bruno. But the systemic torture and killing of anyone with a scientific thought not approved by the church for hundreds of years. I'm sure he was using "Bruno" as a metaphor for all those scientists that were tortured and killed solely because they were pursuing science instead of blindly following church doctrine.
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Generally a positive review, but, like AustinChief, nails the Bruno thing on the head. |
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Again, thats not my point. Religion killed many scientists for advocating scientific beliefs and principles. You want to get side tracked and say since this one thing wasn't the whole truth and nothing but the truth therefore everything else is pure BS. Thats your right.
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Sagan, for example, made important contributions to research within the solar system, several of which were mentioned last night, as well as contributions to a number of NASA's interplanetary (and now extrasolar) missions.
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(and his beliefs on cosmology had nothing, ZERO, to do with him being tried for heresy.) (and and... the idea that this vast number of scientific martyrs died at the hands of the Church is also make believe... there were certainly a few cases of persecution but for the most part that idea is fantasy land) |
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Actually. The reason for Bruno being burned at the stake is still a subject of controversy among historians. To pass the version you choose to believe off as though it is fact is dishonest. Yay God.
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I care about FACTS. And you are dead wrong about Bruno. It is a subject of controversy like 9/11 is a subject of controversy. Yes there are some tin foil wackadoodles that think it was a conspiracy but those of us who live in the real world know better. Yes, a few nuts have pulled the "Bruno was persecuted for his science" theory out of their asses but there is nothing to indicate this in the least. The very real reason he was burned at the stake was because he was espousing a ton of different heresies AND was a complete asshole about it. There were MANY other prominent scholars and members of the Church disagreeing with the Church doctrine at the time who were never persecuted in the least. BUT let's ignore ALL OF THAT... the rest of the account was full of lies as well. He wasn't some poor persecuted homeless person wandering from handout to handout as they tried to represent him. Like I said before, anyone who knows a damn thing about the history here is scratching their head as to why Cosmos went full reerun on this. Last edited by AustinChief; 03-11-2014 at 02:10 AM.. Reason: 2 typos |
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