Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

After falling from 65% to 58% this morning, the RT Audience Score has stopped updating...

Why would it stop updating?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BigRichard

Why would it stop updating?

I'm just having fun and being conspiratorial -- no clue, maybe they only update it once an hour.

I'm cheering for it to fall under The Phantom Menace. Such a disappointment.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I hope Solo flops

Phil Lord and Chris Miller deserve better.

That's childish.

It's not as if Lord & Miller weren't paid.

It didn't work out.

That happens in collaborations almost more often than not.

[ShiftyEyedWaterboy]

The way they're handling the OT characters I may end up hating this trilogy more than the PT.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Rian Johnson is writing and directing a new trilogy, set in a different part of the galaxy, with all new characters.

That ought to turn out well.

for ****s sake.

[oaklandhater]

If you’re a fan and you liked that movie, I seriously hate every inch of your body, mind, and spirit and would absolutely force choke you like Vader if it was physically possible. #LastJedi

— #SupremeLeaderSpanky (@TheSpanky412) December 15, 2017

This guy is taking it well.

[Barret]

I had a couple of questions about the Film. I am unsure if this will come off wrong but I am wondering if it is a Disney Influence.

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Can anyone name for me a positive male role model in this that does not need to be helped by a female? The Disney reference here is Princesses having the power.

I mean lets go...Finn was about to get in an escape pod and get the hell out of dodge but is put on the right path by Rose. Also is saved later when he was going to stop the big weapon by Rose.

Poe is the hot shot gunner who get slapped and demoted by Leia and gets talked to about leaderships skills by Leia. He also is put in Check by Admiral Holdo or whatever her name is.

Luke?? He wants to die on a Planet and is coerced to come out by Rey and the Hologram of Leia from New Hope.

Lets flip the script a bit. Can you name any female that is a bad character in this film? Phasma Doesn't count since you don't see her out of the full armor.

Strong Female characters are good but just like the force there needs to be Balance. Such as why not Keep Admiral Akbar around to do the suicide shot into the Devastator? People know Akbar from ROTJ and the Comics. His death was wasted and this would have had more meaning and have some feeling to it. Who the hell is Admiral Holdo anyway besides a Friend of Leia's??

Other stupid crap: Why should I even give a crap about Snoke? No explanation. How did he target Ben? what was his motivations or what is he doing??? Oh who cares lets kill him off. Maybe I will have to read some stupid book to get an update on that.

Phasma was built up and is a waste.

Lukes death was I think a waste but I have heard some people drawing a comparison to Obi wan and Yoda stating that they accomplished their mission and could die in peace. Not sure I believe that but ok whatever.

Rey's Parentage. Really, she is a nobody? ok well thanks for the build up and the "secrecy" behind it. Who cares?? Maybe this will be fixed in Episode 9 where we find out Ben was lying or something.

Hope that doesn't come off as Woman bashing or whatever. I think Rey is a good character and is played really well by Daisy Ridley. Think she gained force powers a little to quickly. Also liked Leias character minus the Mary Poppins bit.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by ShiftyEyedWaterboy

The way they're handling the OT characters I may end up hating this trilogy more than the PT.

I loved TFA.

I could not stand this movie.

[Tribal Warfare]

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-las...an-easter-egg/

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Barret

I had a couple of questions about the Film. I am unsure if this will come off wrong but I am wondering if it is a Disney Influence.

According to Rian Johnson himself, no one interfered or made any suggestions about the script or story.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don’t even understand why there even needs to be an Episode IX. This film wrapped everything up, well, if you wanted to see the heroes of the original trilogy

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unhappy and dead

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I guess Episode IX is for those of us who didn't want the series to just end with the heroes of the original trilogy unhappy and dead. The film didn't wrap up a victor of the conflict. The First Order was not defeated and the resistance remains - hence the need for an Episode IX.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

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The Rebellion and Resistance is gone. 20 people, minus Princess Leia can’t destroy the First Order. Even their allies in the Outer Rim abandoned them.

What’s the point?

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"Rebellions are built on hope" Did you learn nothing from Rogue One? The First Order in the span of a few months has lost their planet destroyer, their dreadnaught, their Supreme Leader barge (or whatever you call that thing) along with their Supreme Leader himself. The resistance still has their leader Leia (at least in the Star Wars universe she is still alive), and they have an up-and-comer Jedi who has already gone toe-to-toe with the new supreme leader TWICE and come out ahead. More than enough there to plant seads of hope across the galaxy and rally more support.

Would I have liked to see some "outter rim folk" rally to the cause at the end - sure. Was it required? No not necessarily - seems like Rian was really trying to bring a bit of reality to this movie with a constant theme of ("this is not going to go how you think"). In that sense, was it more realistic that no one showed up, on a moments notice, to leap into battle and face down the first order in a desperate attempt to save the resistance? Probably. Courage sometimes take time to gather and is often found when it seems that there is no one left to do it for you.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Rian Johnson is writing and directing a new trilogy, set in a different part of the galaxy, with all new characters.

That ought to turn out well.

There were certainly things I did not like about the movie,

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(pretty much hated the whole "vegas-y" sub plot)

but on the whole, I enjoyed it and am looking forward to the next one - as well as the alternate story that Rian will helm.

[RINGLEADER]

Rian Johnson so ripped this off...

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

According to Rian Johnson himself, no one interfered or made any suggestions about the script or story.

then they need to seriously rethink letting him have a whole trilogy. The story telling, pacing and out right whack decisions made for this movie need to be addressed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

then they need to seriously rethink letting him have a whole trilogy. The story telling, pacing and out right whack decisions made for this movie need to be addressed.

Better editing and the removal of two scenes

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Leia floating in space and Yoda's appearance, which makes zero sense

would have made for a much better movie, along with

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Luke looking over the Ach-To ocean, before hitting the credits. There was no reason for him to disappear into the Force.

Those three alone wouldn't have made it a "great" Star Wars film but it certainly would have been much more palatable.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by temper11

.

Agree to disagree.