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Old 02-13-2025, 04:44 PM  
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Unpopular Thought: Trade McDuffie
The Chiefs latest dynasty run was a direct product of the Tyreek trade. Now money is tight, draft resources are slim, and the young players from Veach's great recent drafts are getting to the age to be paid so will be leaving soon. And that's aside from the glaring need for a franchise LT.

Any chance we could get back what makes it worthwhile to give him up this offseason?
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:21 PM   #151
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Yeah, I didn't even feel like going down the "oh, now OBJr is the savior?" rabbithole.

People HATED that guy when we had him.

I think I was one of the few that was even interested in possibly extending him. And with the money we saved by getting the job done with Smith instead of OBJ, we were able to get Tranquill, Edwards and Omenihu last season. All of whom contributed to the championship in a year where we needed all hands on deck.

I mean the revisionist history necessary to engage in this ludicrous exercise in tunnel-vision is just laughable.
Didn’t we have a poll about paying OBJ?

Time to revisit that.
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:32 PM   #152
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Didn’t we have a poll about paying OBJ?

Time to revisit that.
Yeah

It was close:

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=343207

I went back and forth a few times. I don't honestly know where I ended up.
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:34 PM   #153
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Could you getba Top 5 LT in football if you traded them McDuffie?

If you can't then the answer is no.
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:38 PM   #154
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Could you getba Top 5 LT in football if you traded them McDuffie?

If you can't then the answer is no.
Teams just don't trade young franchise LTs in their prime. It has to be a unique situation like with OBJ.
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:54 PM   #155
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Yeah

It was close:

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=343207

I went back and forth a few times. I don't honestly know where I ended up.
It’s not public, but the italicized selection is what you picked.

I voted “yes”. My fear was the unknown and how hard that position is to find.

I won’t take any victory lap, because that isn’t warranted. The Chiefs went to each of the next two Super Bowls and won 1.

Hard to say we do much better than that with OBJ, since there is only 1 way to do better.
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What the **** is this OBJ shit that's come up again?

He walked. We won a Superbowl and went to another BECAUSE they had that cap space.

Get the **** over it already. It was the right move every time.
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Old 02-14-2025, 03:58 PM   #157
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Why would any reasonably intelligent GM do this? No one is trading a top-tier LT to any other team, much less the widely hated Chiefs, for a CB unless that CB is the second coming of Deion Sanders.


Keep McDuffie. No way you even think about trading him.
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People acting like they haven’t attempted to go deep all year. Mahomes and Worthy were not connecting on those balls during the season for the most part. Al those misses were bombs, and would have changed this whole narrative. If we were connecting on those then defenses would have had to play us differently.
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Ok just to be honest with the ops dream, would I trade McDuffie one for one for a rock lock 5 year tackle?

Absolutely

But would I trade him for some rookie shitbag lottery ticket?

Hell no

McDuffie + a much lesser pick is as far as it goes... I want VALUE, I want a five year minimum LT for Mahomes
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Trade McDuffie?

Pining for OBJ??

Offseason sucks already...
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So despite there being a lot of outrage over the thread idea, I think we’re all circling to the same basic ideas.

- we’re not gonna get a blue chip LT in free agency. Their own team will throw huge cash to keep them, or will get beat out by the many teams with an absurd amount of cash
- for that reason teams will probably overpay for average OTs out of desperation . We would probably need to overpay a middling LT or try to find something in the junk pile
- any pick without a trade up is gonna have huge bust potential
- given what we’ve seen walking into next season with Wanya, Kingsley, and humphries from what we’ve seen carries huge risk
- we don’t have good trade chips given where we’re drafting. It will take a huge trade off of picks to even land an average, even overpriced LT. Judging by the obj dialogue nobody seems to have much interest in that either.

I don’t think anyone disagrees that our options look bleak. I also don’t think anyone disagrees that we must fix LT and can’t punt this another year. So yeah, rock and a hard place. Before you just shit on this kind of idea, realize that the alternatives aren’t very good either. It’s a trade I really really wouldn’t want to make. But it isn’t insane to acknowledge that mcduffie is probably our only trade chip and our options otherwise look a little bleak
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Repeat after me:

QB, OT, DE, and CB are pillar positions. We do not trade All-Pro pillar players 2 years into their 1st contract.

repeat.

repeat.

repeat.

Okay, now we should be good.
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So despite there being a lot of outrage over the thread idea, I think we’re all circling to the same basic ideas.

- we’re not gonna get a blue chip LT in free agency. Their own team will throw huge cash to keep them, or will get beat out by the many teams with an absurd amount of cash
- for that reason teams will probably overpay for average OTs out of desperation . We would probably need to overpay a middling LT or try to find something in the junk pile
- any pick without a trade up is gonna have huge bust potential
- given what we’ve seen walking into next season with Wanya, Kingsley, and humphries from what we’ve seen carries huge risk
- we don’t have good trade chips given where we’re drafting. It will take a huge trade off of picks to even land an average, even overpriced LT. Judging by the obj dialogue nobody seems to have much interest in that either.

I don’t think anyone disagrees that our options look bleak. I also don’t think anyone disagrees that we must fix LT and can’t punt this another year. So yeah, rock and a hard place. Before you just shit on this kind of idea, realize that the alternatives aren’t very good either. It’s a trade I really really wouldn’t want to make. But it isn’t insane to acknowledge that mcduffie is probably our only trade chip and our options otherwise look a little bleak
Our options only look "bleak" if you want a franchise LT this offseason.

Our options are certainly not bleak if you just want adequate steady play there for at least next season and hopefully one or two more.
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The reason the Tyreek trade worked was because we got McDuffie.

He's 24 years old.
Trade Mcduffie for TWO Mcduffies
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