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Old 12-15-2024, 08:06 PM  
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What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?
I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
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Old 12-16-2024, 01:07 PM   #151
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I remember a line from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War"...

"Never interfere when your enemy is making a mistake"...every team is playing KC like it's their SB. Bills showed their hand by suddenly playing more man than they ever have before. Chiefs arent showing more than they have to.

They burned that surprise too early...it was a strategic mistake.

Hopefully KC can sucker the Steelers/Texans into the same trap...
This was my comment in the post gane thread. The chiefs did this exact thing with the Bengals two years ago and completely locked down their offense in the playoff game. Bills want to beat the chiefs so bad they aren't patient enough. They need the confidence boost of any win, even regular season wins.
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Old 12-16-2024, 01:07 PM   #152
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Man....so is it ever the high paid QB that's gonna have to figure it out or are we always on the LT or the WRs or the coaches?
Maybe just maybe don’t surround him with guys who are bottom 5 at their respective position. We aren’t talking about passable players at WR last year or LT this year. We’re talking about starting guys who are unrosterable. These guys play a very big part in why he sees ghosts even when they do their job.

Given the current circumstances where these guys have ****ed away his confidence and trust, yes it may take some extra help to get him right.
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Old 12-16-2024, 01:54 PM   #153
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Maybe just maybe don’t surround him with guys who are bottom 5 at their respective position. We aren’t talking about passable players at WR last year or LT this year. We’re talking about starting guys who are unrosterable. These guys play a very big part in why he sees ghosts even when they do their job.

Given the current circumstances where these guys have ****ed away his confidence and trust, yes it may take some extra help to get him right.
Who's un roster able?

My god can we treat the guy with more kid gloves?

You wanna be an all time great and make all the $ and fame? Yeah, you're gonna have to cover for some shit in a capped league.
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Old 12-16-2024, 01:59 PM   #154
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Who's un roster able?

My god can we treat the guy with more kid gloves?

You wanna be an all time great and make all the $ and fame? Yeah, you're gonna have to cover for some shit in a capped league.
Wanya and Kingsley are not playable. Watson is not really playable. Kareem, Hopkins and Kelce are older now. Not as good.

It’s not been a good supporting cast. Same exact thing is happening to Stroud
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Wanya and Kingsley are not playable. Watson is not really playable. Kareem, Hopkins and Kelce are older now. Not as good.

It’s not been a good supporting cast. Same exact thing is happening to Stroud
Are we going to compare Patrick Mahomes to CJ Stroud? Is that what you're saying here?
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Who's un roster able?

My god can we treat the guy with more kid gloves?

You wanna be an all time great and make all the $ and fame? Yeah, you're gonna have to cover for some shit in a capped league.
Toney, skyy moore, Ritchie James, Justyn Ross last year was unrosterable. Mvs was cut by buffalo midseason. We picked up mecole after the jets deemed him unrosterable. We picked up juju after the pats deemed him unrosterable. Justin Watson probably is a bubble WR at best. The WRs right now are adequate enough by now to get the job done but last years piece of shit WR corps has undoubtedly given him PTSD.

Wanya and Kingsley at their current level of play are barely rosterable, maybe.

We aren’t talking about backups. We’re talking about guys with large roles who can’t even make a 53 man roster. Look mahomes has some issues to deal with but your insistence that a large part of that isn’t due to really really bad players in positions he really depends on is nonsense. We had the worst WR room in the league last year and this year we have easily bottom 5 LT play. We aren’t talking about bringing in Trent Williams. We’re talking about at least a serviceable LT.

When Brady was handed a shit sandwich with reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney the very next year they went out and got moss and Wes welker. Just because he is a great qb doesn’t mean he doesn’t need help when he’s in a slump.
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Are we going to compare Patrick Mahomes to CJ Stroud? Is that what you're saying here?
Feel free to compare it to Brady’s last year in NE where it was similar and he looked like shit.

Why do you think he left?
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PMII needs some fresh eyes. Maybe bring in someone like John Beck (QB guru) to get an outside opinion. Nothing against PMII's current private coach, Jeff Christensen. But sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can help with the yips or other issues.
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PMII needs some fresh eyes. Maybe bring in someone like John Beck (QB guru) to get an outside opinion. Nothing against PMII's current private coach, Jeff Christensen. But sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can help with the yips or other issues.
I also wonder if Reid does too. Of course he’s still at the top of his game but our offensive coaching staff has been pretty inbred for a while. We got a lot out of Brad Childress researching all kinds of offensive concepts. Feel like it’s time to push the button one more time.
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I also wonder if Reid does too. Of course he’s still at the top of his game but our offensive coaching staff has been pretty inbred for a while. We got a lot out of Brad Childress researching all kinds of offensive concepts. Feel like it’s time to push the button one more time.
Agree. Seems like the offensive play-calling isn't always in sync with the strengths and weaknesses of the players. A fresh perspective might be the reset the offense needs. Even if it's just a few small improvements.
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Wanya and Kingsley are not playable. Watson is not really playable. Kareem, Hopkins and Kelce are older now. Not as good.

It’s not been a good supporting cast. Same exact thing is happening to Stroud
I mean this the best I can, not being aggressive etc. But what in the **** else are they supposed to do at OT?

They have taken multiple OT's in the top 3 rounds of the draft, none of them were thought to be reaches. They spent at the top of the market for Taylor, it's not like there have been a bunch of high end OT's available in FA.

Guess what, you pick after 30 every year with some hugely expensive players on your roster. Unless you want to trade like 3 1's to draft Joe Alt, what the **** are you gonna do? We're literally bitching they didn't get lucky and steal a good starting OT.
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I mean this the best I can, not being aggressive etc. But what in the **** else are they supposed to do at OT?

They have taken multiple OT's in the top 3 rounds of the draft, none of them were thought to be reaches. They spent at the top of the market for Taylor, it's not like there have been a bunch of high end OT's available in FA.

Guess what, you pick after 30 every year with some hugely expensive players on your roster. Unless you want to trade like 3 1's to draft Joe Alt, what the **** are you gonna do? We're literally bitching they didn't get lucky and steal a good starting OT.
Donovan Smith has been sitting at home all year. The guy who was at least good enough for us to win a Super Bowl with last year. Everybody tells me he was bad but I don't remember having even one tenth of the drama we've had this year.
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Wanya and Kingsley are not playable. Watson is not really playable. Kareem, Hopkins and Kelce are older now. Not as good.

It’s not been a good supporting cast. Same exact thing is happening to Stroud
If the supporting cast is that piss poor, someone is not doing their job at an adequate level.
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I mean this the best I can, not being aggressive etc. But what in the **** else are they supposed to do at OT?

They have taken multiple OT's in the top 3 rounds of the draft, none of them were thought to be reaches. They spent at the top of the market for Taylor, it's not like there have been a bunch of high end OT's available in FA.

Guess what, you pick after 30 every year with some hugely expensive players on your roster. Unless you want to trade like 3 1's to draft Joe Alt, what the **** are you gonna do? We're literally bitching they didn't get lucky and steal a good starting OT.
They need to let Trey Smith walk and sign Cam Robinson.

He’s only given up one sack and has a PFF grade in the mid 70’s. He’s a playable decent LT that knows our offense and that’s much better than what we’ve had previous years or could obtain now.
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I mean this the best I can, not being aggressive etc. But what in the **** else are they supposed to do at OT?

They have taken multiple OT's in the top 3 rounds of the draft, none of them were thought to be reaches. They spent at the top of the market for Taylor, it's not like there have been a bunch of high end OT's available in FA.

Guess what, you pick after 30 every year with some hugely expensive players on your roster. Unless you want to trade like 3 1's to draft Joe Alt, what the **** are you gonna do? We're literally bitching they didn't get lucky and steal a good starting OT.
So do we just accept this is the offense we’re going to see in KC? LT is hard to address so we just accept that Mahomes is not going to be surrounded with the talent he needs to succeed?
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