Chris Jones and his 15+ sacks

[Balto]

Jones got his small bonus.

Week 1: 0
Week 2: 1.5
Week 3: 1.0
Week 4: 1.0
Week 5: 1.0
Week 6: 1.0
Week 7: 0
Week 8: 0
Week 9: 0
Week 10: BYE
Week 11: 2
Week 12: 0
Week 13: 0
Week 14: 0
Week 15: 0
Week 16: 1
Week 17: 1
Week 18: 1

Total: 10.5 Sacks

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Hell...bring back Danna if he ends up not getting a decent offer from someone else.

He looked for a bit like he might play himself into a middle-class starter's contract.

Now but he plateaued pretty quickly. Looks like he's just gonna have a 10 year career as a good rotational piece. That has some value, but I don't know how much.

He'll be an interesting piece on the market. I think our hope should be that he just slips through the cracks and comes back on the VSB.

[O.city]

I'm not a big Higgins fan.

Go trade for Aiyuk, he fits what they want better and they have history dealing with the 9ers. Or trade up for a guy.

Let Jones walk, try to sign Sneed, try to sign a legit DE if it works.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not a big Higgins fan.

Go trade for Aiyuk, he fits what they want better and they have history dealing with the 9ers. Or trade up for a guy.

Let Jones walk, try to sign Sneed, try to sign a legit DE if it works.

I'd rather sign Higgins and draft Egbuka or Coleman than trade for Aiyuk.

This WR class is way too deep to give a 1st rounder for a guy you're gonna have to pay $27+ million. There are 6-8 guys who profile EXTREMELY similarly to Aiyuk in this draft.

[The Franchise]

I'd love Aiyuk but I'm out on giving up the 1st and the contract.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Someone is going to overpay, hopefully not us.

I see no way KC overpays for him. If they were going to it would have been after last season when he had one of the best if not best season of his career. KC won’t suddenly overpay him when he’s approaching 30 and not playing at a $30 million a year level.

[RunKC]

I'd probably go after Calvin Ridley and use a 1st on a WR. Ridley is playing in our system in Jacksonville. Excellent route runner, bigger WR. Solid hands. He'd be a stabilizer

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd say it's debatable that he's $20MM good.

I don't see any way to get to $25 million.

Is he presently a top 10 interior lineman? It's tighter than you might think, IMO.

He's a hell of a lot closer to Hargrave than he is Williams at this point, IMO. And he'll be the same age Hargrave was when he signed for 4/$84 million (which is realistically 2/$41 million).

And honestly, I still don't think I'd give him Hargrave's deal. It's just time to move on. Change your approach to focus on depth across the line and pass rush from your edges. Omenihu can provide some 3rd down interior pressure if he kicks inside.

Jones has always been what he is, a good player with good seasons who has an occasional elite season. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing which you will get. He wants to be paid for his occasional elite seasons while it looks like Veach wants to pay him for his good seasons.

[DJ's left nut]

Ridley would probably be my target as well. Market may not be as robust given his age (he's older than you realize) and the Jags likely can't tag him since they have Josh Allen to worry about.

He'll be 29 next season. I think he could maybe get to $20 million in AAV but I don't think he's getting that 4 year term at that age. People cite the Kirk deal as a comp for Ridley but Kirk is two years into that deal and STILL only 27. He'll be 29 when the deal is over. Ridley will be 29 when his starts.

But if we could get him on a deal that is effectively his age 29/30 seasons before we move on, I could live with that. Just realize that 29 is when we start to get near the cliff for most WRs.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd rather sign Higgins and draft Egbuka or Coleman than trade for Aiyuk.

This WR class is way too deep to give a 1st rounder for a guy you're gonna have to pay $27+ million. There are 6-8 guys who profile EXTREMELY similarly to Aiyuk in this draft.

Aiyuk steps in day 1 here and is a top 3 WR in the league for the life of his contract.

I don't care about the draft crap shoot. They've got the rest of the WR core on cheap deals and Kelce is about done.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Aiyuk steps in day 1 here and is a top 3 WR in the league for the life of his contract.

I don't care about the draft crap shoot. They've got the rest of the WR core on cheap deals and Kelce is about done.

I loved Aiyuk before it was cool. He was my Rashee Rice before Rashee Rice - I badly wanted him to fall into 2nd round trade-up range his draft year.

But top 3? In a league with Justin Jefferson, Chase, Tyreek and AJ Brown? Lamb's coming into his own. Kupp is still a thing. St. Brown is a stud.

Top 3 is pushing it. Top 10 - sure. Top 5? Maybe.

But I can't see him breaking into the top 3.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Aiyuk steps in day 1 here and is a top 3 WR in the league for the life of his contract.

I don't care about the draft crap shoot. They've got the rest of the WR core on cheap deals and Kelce is about done.

I like Aiyuk but this is crazy talk. He isn’t even the best WR on his team.

No way he’s top 3 in the league, even with Mahomes.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I loved Aiyuk before it was cool. He was my Rashee Rice before Rashee Rice - I badly wanted him to fall into 2nd round trade-up range his draft year.

But top 3? In a league with Justin Jefferson, Chase, Tyreek and AJ Brown? Lamb's coming into his own. Kupp is still a thing. St. Brown is a stud.

Top 3 is pushing it. Top 10 - sure. Top 5? Maybe.

But I can't see him breaking into the top 3.

Go look at the advanced stuff from this year. And that's on that loaded offense.

Yeah, top 3. He'd be right there with Ceedee.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Go look at the advanced stuff from this year. And that's on that loaded offense.

Yeah, top 3. He'd be right there with Ceedee.

Which still puts him behind Hill, Jefferson, Chase and Brown.

[O.city]

Dude's been putting up 1k yard years in that run first shit with those QB's.

I think he's more technical than alot of those guys.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Dude's been putting up 1k yard years in that run first shit with those QB's.

I think he's more technical than alot of those guys.

I think you're doing those 4 a disservice. Those are all extremely precise route-runners. The only one with any notable flaws is Chase who can get a little bit dropsy at times (and Hills had some bouts of it).

Speaking of talented guys who have had occasional issues with drops - what about Amari Cooper? The Browns can't pay him his $20 million base salary; they'd save about that much on the cap by cutting him and their cap is in shambles next year thanks to the Watson restructure.

As a solid veteran option, you could do worse. 800 yards this year with a trash QB situation. 30 years old next year so he shouldn't command a massive long-term deal.

If you can get him as a reasonable alternative should you miss out on Ridley (or the market is crazy for him) you wouldn't be in bad shape. Hell, flip a 5th for him and take on the $20 million base on a 1-year deal and it's not the end of the world for a 30 yr old WR.