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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 AM  
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I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:25 PM   #151
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like i said ........ you "jordan black-ed" this thread
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:33 PM   #152
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IMO that wasn't a throw away. I can't remember who the WR was, Hannon maybe, but he turned outside and Croyle threw it right down the middle of the field. If Croyle thinks the best way to throw the ball away is to heave down the middle of the field then he is dumber than shit.
He was throwing it away. And yes, it was dumb.

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As far your other point I don't pretend to know what routes guys are supposed to run but don't most pro teams use option routes? I don't know if the Chiefs would use those with a rookie QB though but they might.
Sure they use option routes, which would AMPLIFY the problem. As it is, I only saw it with Kennison.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:34 PM   #153
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[QUOTE=Laz]I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Been saying the same thing for weeks...
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:39 PM   #154
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Sure they use option routes, which would AMPLIFY the problem. As it is, I only saw it with Kennison.
Maybe gochiefs or somebody can post the video of the INT I would like to see it to confirm what you are seeing.

I can't imagine Eddie running the wrong routes to screw Brodie but who knows.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:39 PM   #155
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Right. I got no problem with what you're selling.

But don't give me this "Huard gives us a better shot to win" bullshit.

Even Huard's #1 fan (Hootie) acknowledges that he's advocating using Huard as a sacrificial lamb and nothing more.

Then this last game must have changed your mind because you have given me every reason in the book since TC began as to why the Chiefs should start Croyle. I have been selling the same thing as Hootie.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:46 PM   #156
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Then this last game must have changed your mind because you have given me every reason in the book since TC began as to why the Chiefs should start Croyle. I have been selling the same thing as Hootie.
I haven't changed my mind in the slightest. Starting Croyle is the best long-term solution for the team.

As for you and Hootie, have you stopped suggesting that Huard gives us the "best chance to win"?
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:47 PM   #157
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Maybe gochiefs or somebody can post the video of the INT I would like to see it to confirm what you are seeing.

I can't imagine Eddie running the wrong routes to screw Brodie but who knows.
For the record, I can imagine Eddie running the wrong routes, but I can't imagine him doing it for that reason.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:48 PM   #158
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I haven't changed my mind in the slightest. Starting Croyle is the best long-term solution for the team.

As for you and Hootie, have you stopped suggesting that Huard gives us the "best chance to win"?
Nope. He does. Croyle has gotten worse as he gets more playing time.
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Nope. He does. Croyle has gotten worse as he gets more playing time.
What does he give us a better chance to win?

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Old 08-24-2007, 04:19 PM   #160
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Nope. He does. Croyle has gotten worse as he gets more playing time.
OMG! Just stop. When does Croyle get a shot? When LJ is washed up? You REALLY need to get off Huard. 34 yrs. old and HAS NEVER STARTED AN ENTIRE SEASON. Jesus...
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:20 PM   #161
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Nope. He does. Croyle has gotten worse as he gets more playing time.




Last week in his first drive he looked as good as any QB in the game - even Peyton Manning. I've watched that drive several times over the last week and am still amazed at how he threw the ball. On the INT last week, sure he missed the read on the D, but had he been throwing to TG instead of Wilson, TG would have got the ball. FWIW, last night was also the worst I've seen the OL. Add in the equation that it looked to me like they were trying to call a game to keep Croyle from making mistakes and I think there's more to it than just Croyle.

You could say the same of Huard, he looked horrible last week and wasn't able to play do to injury this week.



FWIW, I'll also go on record to say that if we start Huard for any reason other than perhaps concern about the OL getting our future QB hurt before McIntire is back, then we should just go ahead and cut Croyle now and move on.
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START BRODIE CROYLE, HE GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN NOW, AND FOR THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE IS GOING TO LEARN AND WITH LJ AND D-MAC HE HAS A SHOT TO PROVE THAT HE IS THE BEST QB FOR THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE KC BRASS NEEDS TO GROW A SET OF BALLS AND START BRODIE CROYLE AND SET KC CHIEFS UP FOR A SB IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS... GROWING PAINS... Peyton Manning went through them... Other QBs have had their growing pains and went on to Super Bowls, so it is our turn. BUT nnNNOOO we can't do that because we listen to ESPN jerk offs or some piss aunt journalist!!!!! OLD VETERAN QBs HAVE NOT GOT US A SUPER BOWL AND I DON"T CARE HOW GOOD THEY ARE THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT IN 30 YEARS FOR US. Why should we wait another year with Brodie on the bench and waist another year of solid QB development?????At the same time we will miss Bowe become a target of Brodie for the next several years. They should be on the same field to gain that connection like Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne.
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Why is it I keep reading Stuart Huard everytime I see this topic?
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START BRODIE CROYLE, HE GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN NOW, AND FOR THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE IS GOING TO LEARN AND WITH LJ AND D-MAC HE HAS A SHOT TO PROVE THAT HE IS THE BEST QB FOR THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:15 PM   #165
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Huard isn't the guy to start. He's actually worse. If you've been watching the preseason games, he's proved that.

Honestly, leaving Croyle in the QB, and bringing back the wishbone, the Chiefs might be better off that way.
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