Let's Talk About the Eagles (Super Bowl 59 Discussion)

[SHOWTIME]

We're headed back to the Ship and will try to be the first team to 3-peat in Super Bowl history!!! Chiefs open up as 1.5 favorites over the Eagles.

Discuss.


and don't forget...

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[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

They never learn…

They all picked KC the day before so it looks like it was a calculated stunt because Jeff Saturday even hinted before that that "he might change his pick".

Anyway Stephen A Smith, Mad Dog Russo and Shannon Sharpe (as always) picked the Eagles. Cam Newton was the only one going with KC.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Grapes is the weakest QB we've faced and it's not particularly close.

That closed eye interception is often forgotten because of how early it happened, but that shit was a Cassielian game-swinging moment for us. We could not stop their offense and ours was struggling to sustain drives at that point in the game.

Since then, I’m not sure a QB has thrown us a gift like that in a Super Bowl.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, I feel like blowouts or even two-possession 'comfortable' games are caused by....
...multiple turnovers and quick scores, like pick sixes, scoop/score, starting drives in the red zone
...multiple big time injuries
...the worst refs imaginable
...a game that's just an awful, awful mismatch

The last thing doesn't often happen in the Super Bowl (and usually only the NFCCG in the last couple weekends since that conference is a shitshow of mediocrity).

Then you hope the refs and injuries don't happen.

And then you're left with one team imploding.

And that goes beyond say the Chiefs being up 21-10 in the AFCCG as we saw, or the Chiefs being down 10 in the Super Bowl without possession of the ball, because teams at this stage are usually explosive enough to get back into it.

I'd be ecstatic if they just kept it at arms length in the 2nd half for the most part and the Eagles never have possession with a chance to take the lead... if it's more out of hand than that, the Eagles are either the fakest SB contender ever or have seriously screwed the pooch (and of course the same goes for the Chiefs if they found themselves in the same spot).

I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only way that happens. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

[Balto]

Eagles vs Bucs game could be the way. Dink and Dunk, Dink and Dunk. quick short passes. Watch the highlight BUT I'd suggest put it on mute so you can't hear that dumbass Brady talking.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only ways that happen. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

And he kind of did two seasons ago (at least in the 2nd half), but even when Hurts wasn't throwing dimes, he could just throw some Lamar specials towards Brown or Smith to run under.... granted, I'd be surprised if their offense looks THAT good this time around.

[UChieffyBugger]

Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I think there's a 10% chance we win by 7 points or more. Like you said, something crazy like multiple turnovers or Mahomes completely torching this defense are the only way that happens. It's fun to think about and it's not outside of the realm of possibility, but let's be real here. It's extremely unlikely. This is probably gonna be a close one.

I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

[ChiefsHawk]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

The other aspect is the flu going around

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Just saw on twitter Dr Jesse Morse spoke about the injuries for this game.

1. Concerned about Smith's hamstring. Think he reaggravated a previous hamstring problem in the last game.

2. Thinks Hurts is still carrying that knee injury.

3. Thinks Cam Jurgens will tough it out but back may still be an issue.

If Smith doesn't get a full practice in today then alarmbells may start ringing. He missed week 12 and 13 in the regular season with the same hamstring problem.

And Chao thinks Dickerson is either playing through an ACL or meniscus type injury....

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

They were so ****ing close to a 14-3 lead in the AFCCG... if they can duplicate that start without the turnover, shit gets real interesting.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

They were so ****ing close to a 14-3 lead in the AFCCG... if they can duplicate that start without the turnover, shit gets real interesting.

I do feel like the degree of diffuculty in Philly's offense is low enough that the 'yips' are less likely.

I mean Allen just came out tight and looked like balls for 2 drives.

Philly's offense just doesn't really subject itself to that kind of thing as much. Coming out tight won't get in the way of "Hand it to Saquon and wait for him to make a guy in the 2nd level miss..."

I feel like a substantial lead is going to need to be a 'water over rocks' sort of thing where we just keep plugging away, they keep stalling after a 1st down or 2, maybe they settle for a FG in there, and suddenly it's 17-6 and they're having to look to get more aggressive as halftime approaches.

THEN you might see some big mistakes. But I don't see that happening in the early parts of the game.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I strongly disagree, because all it would likely take is the Chiefs getting out to an early 2 score lead. With a QB like Mahomes on one side and Hurts on the other, I don't think it's "extremely" unlikely.

I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

And if it is close, who do you think that favors?

I'm going with the team that simply doesn't lose close games.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Great news, Jason McIntyre picks against the Chiefs again. As he does every week in playoff games, for years now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I'm sorry I'm just not drinking the Kool-Aid on this one. There are reasons to believe the Eagles D-Line will slow us down with Caliendo being a weakness and Trey having to line up against Carter.

The Eagles O-Line is absolutely outstanding. Even if we contain Barkley, if they get consistent push on our D-Line where Barkley and Hurts get 2 yards before contact, they can ride that kind of running game to points and most importantly, keep Mahomes off the field.

Do I think that means we're ****ed? Absolutely not. But it's enough to slow us down, and enough to keep the game close, where anything can happen. The Eagles made it the Super Bowl for a reason, they aren't gonna just lay down for us. Chances are this game is close.

What happens when the Chiefs run trap and Smith ear holes Carter?