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Old 12-10-2017, 02:10 PM  
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Old 01-12-2023, 05:00 PM   #1621
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Interesting. Was wondering why he'd even accept a trade instead of forcing the Raiders hand to just cut him and hit the open market but he's got some pretty big base salaries, even if traded. 33, 42, and 41 over the next 3 seasons. Provided the right team comes calling he may just keep what he's got currently, provided the trading team shifts some of it into guaranteed $$$ for him.
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Old 01-12-2023, 05:50 PM   #1622
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Old 01-12-2023, 05:52 PM   #1623
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Interesting. Was wondering why he'd even accept a trade instead of forcing the Raiders hand to just cut him and hit the open market but he's got some pretty big base salaries, even if traded. 33, 42, and 41 over the next 3 seasons. Provided the right team comes calling he may just keep what he's got currently, provided the trading team shifts some of it into guaranteed $$$ for him.
That's easily his best use of that NTC.

You leverage your willingness/ability to waive it to secure additional salary guarantees.

And if you're an NFC south team with a lot of cap space and no viable alternative, you go ahead and give him the guarantees.
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Old 01-12-2023, 05:52 PM   #1624
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If you're Carolina or Atlanta and see that division as eminently winnable, not just now but for the next 3-5 seasons given the state of the division, he should absolutely be an attractive option.

Because whichever of those 2 lands him is going to be the prohibitive favorite, as sad as that is, for the next several seasons.
Hopefully he goes to Atlanta so I can draft Pitts at a more reasonable spot than people were drafting him this year since many will now be scared off.
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Old 01-12-2023, 06:03 PM   #1626
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Old 01-12-2023, 06:07 PM   #1627
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Why would any team trade for Carr if they know he will ultimately get cut?
Because you control the landing.

Nobody's gonna give a 1st for him, but a 2nd? High 3rd? Sure.

I mean everyone knew the 49ers were going to cut or trade Alex Smith but they still got him traded and somehow, against all odds, everyone came out ahead in that deal.

Obviously Carr's NTC could allow him to still blow any potential acquiring team out of the water if he really doesn't want to go there, but that's where the ability to guarantee additional salary comes in.

Someone will trade for him.
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Old 01-12-2023, 06:23 PM   #1628
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I don’t think Chris Ballard can afford to take another old retread bc his seat is on fire. Fortunately for him his old pal Ryan Poles has the 1st overall pick so he could ultimately trade with him to get his guy.

I think Tampa would be a nice landing spot with Tom leaving. Bad division and a good surrounding cast
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Old 01-12-2023, 06:32 PM   #1629
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I don’t think Chris Ballard can afford to take another old retread bc his seat is on fire. Fortunately for him his old pal Ryan Poles has the 1st overall pick so he could ultimately trade with him to get his guy.

I think Tampa would be a nice landing spot with Tom leaving. Bad division and a good surrounding cast
Yeah, Ballard almost has to go QB at 4.

But man, think of the position he COULD find himself in. This deal has to get done by mid-February, right?

So let's say Carr gets traded elsewhere and come draft time, the Seahawks trade up to 1 for Bryce Young, the Texans go with Stroud at 2. Now you've got Will Levis and Anthony Richardson on the board at 4 - who are BOTH going to take just long enough to perform to get you fired.

So if I'm Ballard and Feb 12 gets here and the Raiders call and offer Carr for a 2nd, I ask for a future 4th back in the deal, grit my teeth and pull the trigger. I guarantee the 2023 and 2024 salaries if necessary to get Carr to accept the deal and waive his NTC.

Then I take a small trade-back into the 8-10 range and draft Anthony Richardson to sit for a couple years because I think it will take him at least a full season and maybe 2 to become an NFL ready player. This may allow me to recover a good chunk of the capital I gave up to get Carr.

In 2025 I hope that Carr has played well enough to spin the trade roulette wheel again and maybe recover a little bit of the draft capital I gave up to get him. And in the meantime I can immediately win football games and I STILL have my really high ceiling potential QBOTF on the roster.
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Yeah I agree DJ. Ballard does have a few things in his favor though.

He knows Poles. There’s a relationship there from their time in KC. I severely doubt Poles wants to trade down past 4 if he decides to keep Justin Fields. With the Texans undoubtedly picking a QB at 2, he’d be guaranteed Jalen Carter or Will Anderson.

It seems like a perfect trade for both teams that is just waiting to happen
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Is Ballard even going to be there? Seems like Irsay has pretty much taken over most major moves in the last year or so.

Demanded Wentz be gone.
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I seriously doubt Ballard gets to do anything that Irsay doesn't explicitly want him to do anymore. Ballard may just want to part ways if it comes to that.
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Yeah, Ballard almost has to go QB at 4.

But man, think of the position he COULD find himself in. This deal has to get done by mid-February, right?

So let's say Carr gets traded elsewhere and come draft time, the Seahawks trade up to 1 for Bryce Young, the Texans go with Stroud at 2. Now you've got Will Levis and Anthony Richardson on the board at 4 - who are BOTH going to take just long enough to perform to get you fired.

So if I'm Ballard and Feb 12 gets here and the Raiders call and offer Carr for a 2nd, I ask for a future 4th back in the deal, grit my teeth and pull the trigger. I guarantee the 2023 and 2024 salaries if necessary to get Carr to accept the deal and waive his NTC.

Then I take a small trade-back into the 8-10 range and draft Anthony Richardson to sit for a couple years because I think it will take him at least a full season and maybe 2 to become an NFL ready player. This may allow me to recover a good chunk of the capital I gave up to get Carr.

In 2025 I hope that Carr has played well enough to spin the trade roulette wheel again and maybe recover a little bit of the draft capital I gave up to get him. And in the meantime I can immediately win football games and I STILL have my really high ceiling potential QBOTF on the roster.
This is what Ballard should do.

This is what Ballard absolutely will not do.
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Is Ballard even going to be there? Seems like Irsay has pretty much taken over most major moves in the last year or so.

Demanded Wentz be gone.
Demanded Ryan be benched
Fired Reich
Hired Saturday

I seriously doubt Ballard gets to do anything that Irsay doesn't explicitly want him to do anymore. Ballard may just want to part ways if it comes to that.
Heh.

Good point
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Yeah, Ballard almost has to go QB at 4.

But man, think of the position he COULD find himself in. This deal has to get done by mid-February, right?

So let's say Carr gets traded elsewhere and come draft time, the Seahawks trade up to 1 for Bryce Young, the Texans go with Stroud at 2. Now you've got Will Levis and Anthony Richardson on the board at 4 - who are BOTH going to take just long enough to perform to get you fired.

So if I'm Ballard and Feb 12 gets here and the Raiders call and offer Carr for a 2nd, I ask for a future 4th back in the deal, grit my teeth and pull the trigger. I guarantee the 2023 and 2024 salaries if necessary to get Carr to accept the deal and waive his NTC.

Then I take a small trade-back into the 8-10 range and draft Anthony Richardson to sit for a couple years because I think it will take him at least a full season and maybe 2 to become an NFL ready player. This may allow me to recover a good chunk of the capital I gave up to get Carr.

In 2025 I hope that Carr has played well enough to spin the trade roulette wheel again and maybe recover a little bit of the draft capital I gave up to get him. And in the meantime I can immediately win football games and I STILL have my really high ceiling potential QBOTF on the roster.
In your scenario, Raiders should trade #7 and Carr for #4. We need playmakers on D, and the best ones will be gone by 7.
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