Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

I agree that there seemed to be too much going on and all the jumping around got tiresome, and as I said before, made for a long movie...maybe too long.

But I did like it enough to feel positive about it being more original than TFA and way better than the prequels, which are largely ignored and forgotten...that's a good thing by the way.

I'll have to see it again of course, but I think largely this one gets a thumbs up from me.

I respect everyone’s opinion — my problem is that there were just too many dumb moments and side-quests that went nowhere. The humor was bountiful and it was bad (few laughed in my screening). The decisions on major characters was bizarre. It could have been such a better movie but just meandered all over the place.

I get this is Star Wars and you have to buy in to a lot of fantasy, but these movies (at least the original trilogy) never moved into stupid like this film does.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Regarding Capt. Phasma...

Spoiler!

Good to see that her character development begins and ends with "That tall badass chick from Game of Thrones in a shiny storm trooper suit" and nothing else.

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Both she and Snoke were reduced to purely incidental side characters.

What a waste of an opportunity.

[RINGLEADER]

Poe is no Han Solo. He’s actually a pretty lame character.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I get this is Star Wars and you have to buy in to a lot of fantasy, but these movies (at least the original trilogy) never moved into stupid like this film does.

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The Yoda bit brought back memories of Ramirez in Highland 2, another completely wasted and terrible movie.

I mean, if Yoda can just reappear in the flesh and actually use Force Powers in the real world, why didn't he stop Kylo Ren or Snoke or help Luke train the new Jedi?

Also, were are Anakin and Obi Wan? They were Force Ghosts.

It just makes zero sense.

[ShiftyEyedWaterboy]

The new trilogy seems to be the inverse of the PT to me. As shitty as the acting was in the prequels I thought the writing was decent. Most of it felt like Star Wars to me. I thought the scores were really great in the prequels, too.

These movies got some decent actors and totally shit writing. IX is going to have to totally blow me out of the water to redeem this and I don't see JJ pulling it off. Hopefully the spinoff/standalone movies can redeem the universe a little. Rogue One was a great start.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Spoiler!

The Yoda bit brought back memories of Ramirez in Highland 2, another completely wasted and terrible movie.

I mean, if Yoda can just reappear in the flesh and actually use Force Powers in the real world, why didn't he stop Kylo Ren or Snoke or help Luke train the new Jedi?

Also, were are Anakin and Obi Wan? They were Force Ghosts.

It just makes zero sense.

Agreed and bonus points to you for a Highlander-Ramirez reference and multiple bonus for using Highlander 2 in your reference. Well done.

[RINGLEADER]

So look at the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes:

60% and dropping fast.

By comparison The Force Awakens has an 89%.

The original trilogy has no film under 94% (RotJ).

The Last Jedi is now below prequel film Revenge of the Sith and has only 3-points to go before it falls below Attack of the Clones as the worst Audience Score of all the Star Wars movies.

UPDATE: That didn't take long...it is now down to 59% have just tied The Phantom Menace. Still dropping...

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

59% currently

Strangely, all the Super Reviewers that end up on the aggregate page are all 5-star. Interesting the difference between the critics and these reviewers and the rest of the community...

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

They already have him as director for the finale of the trilogy?

JJ is doing the last one.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Abrams is directing IX and he’s writing it with Chris Terrio (who wrote “Argo”).

I don’t even understand why there even needs to be an Episode IX. This film wrapped everything up, well, if you wanted to see the heroes of the original trilogy

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unhappy and dead

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The Rebellion and Resistance is gone. 20 people, minus Princess Leia can’t destroy the First Order. Even their allies in the Outer Rim abandoned them.

What’s the point?

Rian Johnson is writing and directing a new trilogy, set in a different part of the galaxy, with all new characters.

That ought to turn out well.

Those movies are gonna be shit.

[RINGLEADER]

It seems like Rian Johnson and the Star Wars braintrust went out of their way to do the opposite of what fans expected because -- why not? The misdirection worked in the film, but the place it got them to with respect to Rey's parents, Snoke, Luke, and Leia would actually have been better if they had gone in the opposite direction. I get that you don't want to be derivative, but they ended up in just about the worst place you could take a Star Wars film and they did it only to "be different."

Audience scores continue to fall in difference to the reviewers. Big disconnect on this one.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It seems like Rian Johnson and the Star Wars braintrust went out of their way to do the opposite of what fans expected because -- why not? The misdirection worked in the film, but the place it got them to with respect to Rey's parents, Snoke, Luke, and Leia would actually have been better if they had gone in the opposite direction. I get that you don't want to be derivative, but they ended up in just about the worst place you could take a Star Wars film and they did it only to "be different."

Audience scores continue to fall in difference to the reviewers. Big disconnect on this one.

If they wanted to do something against the grain (which in many ways, they didn't), why not just go with George's initial ideas for the sequel trilogy?

If Solo flops (and at this point, it's certainly not a guaranteed success), Iger may need to step in and make changes at Lucasfilm.

[oaklandhater]

http://time.com/5065852/star-wars-last-jedi-reviews/


Time picked up on the hate.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If they wanted to do something against the grain (which in many ways, they didn't), why not just go with George's initial ideas for the sequel trilogy?

If Solo flops (and at this point, it's certainly not a guaranteed success), Iger may need to step in and make changes at Lucasfilm.

I hope Solo flops

Phil Lord and Chris Miller deserve better.

[RINGLEADER]

After falling from 65% to 58% this morning, the RT Audience Score has stopped updating...