2024 WR Class

[Couch-Potato]

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

[kccrow]

I'm going to be blatantly honest with you with what I see with Mitchell and it's not what you see.

Let's start with him physically. He has a bad build for his size and doesn't show great play strength. I know that you keep preaching strength, I don't see it. Not at all. I think NFL press corners, something he didn't really face in college, are going to give him a lot of problems (more in a bit). He doesn't show a strong ability to go up and get the football. I question his vertical.

He's also slow. His releases are painfully slow. He won't be facing #2 PAC-12 CBs when he gets to the bigs. He's going to have to play against really good players who will even more easily stay in phase with him. He's also going to be an EASY jam at the line. He leaves the line on a vertical plane. With a relatively slender build for his height, a slow release, and no real threat of beating NFL corners deep, press will be a major issue. Obviously not all teams play press, but the ones that do will give him issues.

His route running is not as advanced as some scouting reports seem to indicate. It's relatively undeveloped in my opinion. His only real go-to move is a subtle head juke and stutter-go that can't be his only staple in the pros. He's not crisp, he rounds his routes. He telegraphs routes quite a bit and he doesn't have much quickness out of breaks, though he is smooth in transition. I think there's a big difference between making quick, sharp breaks and being smooth... they are mutually exclusive. Imagining that he's going to get any kind of open release in the NFL is hard to think positively about. I think he's going to have to work extremely diligently on his route running in the NFL and become much more sophisticated, to the point of being a technician.

He never really had to face double coverage. He was always 1-on-1 with the opposition's 2nd best CB, at best. Teams always had to roll coverage to stay on top of the better college WR, Worthy. They also had to account for Ja'Tavion Sanders, who is probably also a top-40 player in this draft.

Mitchell does have good hands, and that's a major positive. You can coach the routes, that's a positive. But I just don't think he has enough of anything to be particularly great in the pros. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust or a really bad player but I don't know that I'd draft him and hope he's an "alpha." I saw a lot more on Tee Higgins' tape coming out that I don't see with Mitchell, especially his play strength and ability in tight coverage. That's what scares me. I see Higgins as Mitchell's ceiling but I think his floor is lower to put it in draft terms.

I know Steve Smith doesn't like him at all. That's not the end-all-be-all, obviously, but I think it more or less echoes my hesitation. I don't think he's an "alpha" WR. I think it'll be an uphill battle to be a quality #2 but there is at least enough there to hope he can become that. And that is where we defer largely on opinions. A team that can be patient and values height and not as much speed, like maybe Dallas, should look really hard at this kid. KC, not so much.

[iSavedLatin]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I haven’t run through everything because I’m late to the party but I’d peg him mid second just guessing now

He was used as a screen machine and not asked to do much downfield. He also played against lesser competition. His 40 time is better than expected and, like I mentioned earlier, he ran some great routes at the senior bowl. He might be too much like Rice for us to draft, but he’s definitely trending upwards.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I haven’t run through everything because I’m late to the party but I’d peg him mid second just guessing now

You could just get a prescription for viagra

[ChiefsFanatic]

Here is some comic relief. Man, watching all these receivers makes me hope Toney isn't on the team much longer.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3IxN...JsM3Y2cGtwZg==

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

You could just get a prescription for viagra

I dont get it.

[duncan_idaho]

The fact Kollman talks about Adonai Mitchell the way he talked about Edwards-helaire kind of turns me all the way off on him.

[In58men]

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[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm going to be blatantly honest with you with what I see with Mitchell and it's not what you see.

Let's start with him physically. He has a bad build for his size and doesn't show great play strength. I know that you keep preaching strength, I don't see it. Not at all. I think NFL press corners, something he didn't really face in college, are going to give him a lot of problems (more in a bit). He doesn't show a strong ability to go up and get the football. I question his vertical.

He's also slow. His releases are painfully slow. He won't be facing #2 PAC-12 CBs when he gets to the bigs. He's going to have to play against really good players who will even more easily stay in phase with him. He's also going to be an EASY jam at the line. He leaves the line on a vertical plane. With a relatively slender build for his height, a slow release, and no real threat of beating NFL corners deep, press will be a major issue. Obviously not all teams play press, but the ones that do will give him issues.

His route running is not as advanced as some scouting reports seem to indicate. It's relatively undeveloped in my opinion. His only real go-to move is a subtle head juke and stutter-go that can't be his only staple in the pros. He's not crisp, he rounds his routes. He telegraphs routes quite a bit and he doesn't have much quickness out of breaks, though he is smooth in transition. I think there's a big difference between making quick, sharp breaks and being smooth... they are mutually exclusive. Imagining that he's going to get any kind of open release in the NFL is hard to think positively about. I think he's going to have to work extremely diligently on his route running in the NFL and become much more sophisticated, to the point of being a technician.

He never really had to face double coverage. He was always 1-on-1 with the opposition's 2nd best CB, at best. Teams always had to roll coverage to stay on top of the better college WR, Worthy. They also had to account for Ja'Tavion Sanders, who is probably also a top-40 player in this draft.

Mitchell does have good hands, and that's a major positive. You can coach the routes, that's a positive. But I just don't think he has enough of anything to be particularly great in the pros. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust or a really bad player but I don't know that I'd draft him and hope he's an "alpha." I saw a lot more on Tee Higgins' tape coming out that I don't see with Mitchell, especially his play strength and ability in tight coverage. That's what scares me. I see Higgins as Mitchell's ceiling but I think his floor is lower to put it in draft terms.

I know Steve Smith doesn't like him at all. That's not the end-all-be-all, obviously, but I think it more or less echoes my hesitation. I don't think he's an "alpha" WR. I think it'll be an uphill battle to be a quality #2 but there is at least enough there to hope he can become that. And that is where we defer largely on opinions. A team that can be patient and values height and not as much speed, like maybe Dallas, should look really hard at this kid. KC, not so much.

So if you want a WR that can get off press and run top end routes why the hell are you on little, weak Worthy?

Worthy at 40 lbs less has less craft in his routes than the much bigger Adonai and Sanders the TE prospect.

[Palangi]

Being 40 lbs heavier or lighter doesn’t always equate to being stronger or weaker.

[RunKC]

Worthy might just be Andy’s new DeSean Jackson. And DeSean was not a big or thick bodied dude. He was 5’9” 169 lbs.

Certainly possible Andy wants that element back in the offense. To me it depends on what they do in FA. Mooney might be the option for that role

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Worthy might just be Andy’s new DeSean Jackson. And DeSean was not a big or thick bodied dude. He was 5’9” 169 lbs.

Certainly possible Andy wants that element back in the offense. To me it depends on what they do in FA. Mooney might be the option for that role

Yeah, sure.

The next DeSean Jackson, a LEGENDARY deep threat is exactly the same as little Worthy.



Zay Flowers is not a first round pick and little Xavier is DeSean Jackson.

The I love Punting guy weighs in on offense...

[O.city]

If you're gonna draft a guy to do that, keep the Mooney $ and go sign another TE or DE

[O.city]

Little Worthy is the same size as Legendary Deep threat

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Little Worthy is the same size as Legendary Deep threat

We're dealing with a literal reerun here.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We're dealing with a literal reerun here.

Like, Like Literally?