Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?

[Pablo]

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.

[MMXcalibur]

Originally Posted by KimbleAnders4ever

STAR bonds bill fails in KS Legislature tonight, btw. Wasn't even brought up. KS legislature is done until January 2025, although they will have a special session for a tax bill.

Wish I could get paid for coming to work once every 7 months.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Just put the damn sliding roof over arrowhead and call it a day.

Move the Royals to the riverfront as part of the riverfront revitalization.

Yep. I'll be the one to say it -

The city ****ed up putting the Current's stadium where it did, because that's where the Royals' stadium should have gone. The Current could have fit in nicely where they proposed the new Royals stadium to be, right across the highway from P&L. It'd have been tight with the railroad tracks right there, but it could have worked. The lack of foresight regarding these two stadiums and what they could have been is staggering, really.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep. I'll be the one to say it -

The city ****ed up putting the Current's stadium where it did, because that's where the Royals' stadium should have gone. The Current could have fit in nicely where they proposed the new Royals stadium to be, right across the highway from P&L. It'd have been tight with the railroad tracks right there, but it could have worked. The lack of foresight regarding these two stadiums and what they could have been is staggering, really.

Should have just put it where Royals stadium is now. Haha

[digger]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Why would they drive by Robandee? Far greater chance of getting shot around Quindaro going from the airport through kck via 635.

Originally Posted by Pablo

Nobody would go that route. Unless you just had dipshit sense for how to get around KCKS

Originally Posted by Woogieman

In other words, "out-of-towners"

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Woogieman no one, outside of locals, are going to drive to the Airport via 635 when they would already be right next to 435...

[jettio]

Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm

Anyone else thinking that the Royals/Chiefs both planned all along to see this vote fail, so they could go their "separate" ways and leverage Kansas and Missouri against each other? Say the Chiefs get a deal cut with Kansas sooner than later, leaving Missouri with nothing but the Royals and their hopes to get a new downtown/NKC stadium?

Might be the best thing for both franchises and the KC Metro region as a whole.

Chiefs got dragged into it by the Royals locking their brains on needing to be real estate developers around a new stadium to have a future.

Chiefs make a bigger profit as exclusive tenant with concert revenue rights at Arrowhead than they would make as owners of a new Stadium that they would own and have to service the debt with no public funding.

It is funny how cynical people think people are. Last year's Super Bowl rings did not have to be all about Arrowhead Stadium being the greatest place on Earth.

Somebody with the Royals ownership group needs to interrogate their belief that they have to make money in real estate around a new ballpark in order to survive.

The whole thing flopped because Royals fooled themselves into thinking their survival depended on emulating the Cardinals. That does not make sense and they never explained why they believed that.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Interesting image. It reminded me that Kansas dropped close to 100 million in bonds for the AR complex, which is still years away from completion after multiple delays. It also makes the stadium site look like an after thought that they crammed into some corner on the map.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep. I'll be the one to say it -

The city ****ed up putting the Current's stadium where it did, because that's where the Royals' stadium should have gone. The Current could have fit in nicely where they proposed the new Royals stadium to be, right across the highway from P&L. It'd have been tight with the railroad tracks right there, but it could have worked. The lack of foresight regarding these two stadiums and what they could have been is staggering, really.

Oh good grief. Maybe the City messed up by failing to name you king of the world monday morning QB.

KC Current was the only team looking into that location. Royals never said anything about locating there.

That would be super shitty to shit on the team taking the initiative, because of some imaginary best case dreamed up after the fact and not based on anything anyone is asking for.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jettio

Chiefs got dragged into it by the Royals locking their brains on needing to be real estate developers around a new stadium to have a future.

Chiefs make a bigger profit as exclusive tenant with concert revenue rights at Arrowhead than they would make as owners of a new Stadium that they would own and have to service the debt with no public funding.

It is funny how cynical people think people are. Last year's Super Bowl rings did not have to be all about Arrowhead Stadium being the greatest place on Earth.

Somebody with the Royals ownership group needs to interrogate their belief that they have to make money in real estate around a new ballpark in order to survive.

The whole thing flopped because Royals fooled themselves into thinking their survival depended on emulating the Cardinals. That does not make sense and they never explained why they believed that.

Survival? Maybe not. But it's certainly been a national trend for baseball stadiums to try and create entertainment districts around them. With 81 home games per year, it's a lot easier to get businesses to invest around a stadium compared to 8-9 NFL games.

It's worked beautifully for the Rockies - so well, in fact, that the owner has very little incentive to invest in the team because so many people head down to the area just to have a good time, and the game is kind of secondary.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Putting a domed stadium in Kansas would make the whole Guinness world record dick measuring contest over the last decade seem so funny. Would definitely miss Mahomes playing in home snow games. The crowds will inevitably be much softer and they won’t be able to pack as many people in with the new handicap regulations they’ll have to follow. I wonder if you’ll be allowed to even stand on defense at the new stadium if they build it in Johnson County.

This situation is 7+ years in the future. Mahomes will be 35+ years old by that point and I don’t think he will be anywhere near as good in freezing weather as he is right now or earlier years. And I would guess a 35-40 year old Mahomes would really appreciate a warmer stadium.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by jettio

Oh good grief. Maybe the City messed up by failing to name you king of the world monday morning QB.

KC Current was the only team looking into that location. Royals never said anything about locating there.

That would be super shitty to shit on the team taking the initiative, because of some imaginary best case dreamed up after the fact and not based on anything anyone is asking for.

It was a really radical thought that nobody else in this city once considered, I bet.

Good on the Current to be located where they are now, but like I said, this city has no foresight. And it hates change, as well, and that equals not having their baseball stadium in a premium location that was available for the taking for years on end.

[KimbleAnders4ever]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I didn't really see it as a big push. The Reid and Mahomes effort was weak at best and we all know Kelce will pimp anything for a quarter and some air time, so did they really make a big effort or did they just go through the motions?

They broke the Missouri record for spending in a special election.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Interesting image. It reminded me that Kansas dropped close to 100 million in bonds for the AR complex, which is still years away from completion after multiple delays. It also makes the stadium site look like an after thought that they crammed into some corner on the map.

I fixed it for you

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Interesting image. It reminded me that Kansas dropped close to 100 million in bonds for the AR complex, which is still years away from completion after multiple delays. It also makes the stadium site look like an after thought that they crammed into some corner on the map.

Whether it as an afterthought or not, having the parking lots push up against the interstates is great. When venues are back from the interstates, you can lose a lot of time on the surface streets.

The one great thing about the Oakland complex where the Faid and the Warriors used to play was the parking lots dumping directly out to the interstate.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by digger

Woogieman no one, outside of locals, are going to drive to the Airport via 635 when they would already be right next to 435...

I agree, few would. All I said is there will be more people lost or diverted due to highway construction or wrecks that will go south on 635 then people who drive past Robandee searching for TSC. Absurd response to an absurd point.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I see baitism lives on hole 10 at Dub's Dread.

I try to drive the green on that one so a very good chance I'll yank it left into his living room. If you see a Pro V left dash with two red dots. I did it.