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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:52 AM   #1546
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We are justifying this trade by saying we couldn’t pay him. That’s not true. We could have kept him ONE more year (he had one year left on his contract) and then traded him next year.
He threatened to sit out.

How would that have played out? The distraction? The void at WR1 while chewing up cap space?
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:53 AM   #1547
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Hill essentially gets 25 mil a year with the Dolphins.

Meanwhile KC paid Clark 25.8 last year, Honey Badger 19.8 last year, and Hitchens 10.6 last year.

This year Jones is set to make 29.4 and Clark makes another 13.7.

People want to say he priced himself out, but KC has been overpaying players who don't have near the same impact.


Its not about 1 year though, its about multiple year cap impacts. Which is why Clark just had to restructure and why Jones will have to restructure.

Why do you think Hill had a $20MM cap this season? He wasn't making $20MM.

Mahomes cap hits are going to increase significantly at some point as well.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:55 AM   #1548
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Fesco fron his guys that are in the know said they offered like 60 mil guaranteed but the Adam's deal hit and wanted to get more and the Chiefs said we can't.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:56 AM   #1549
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I can tell you without question, I would take less $ to stay in a better place with better teammates. I've been offered jobs that would have paid more and turned them down.


Hill made it clear it was all about $ and we have all seen this play out many many many times in the NFL and other sports, it rarely works for the player in the long run when it comes to helping their legacy.
The compensation difference is massive, I would imagine. Easy to say if you’re talking going from $150k to $200k annually.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:57 AM   #1550
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One thing nobody really seems to be mentioning and it's the most simple of all this; Hill didn't want to be here anymore. He lives in Miami and wanted to be there.

Believe it or not, some players don't love the Kansas City Chiefs as much as we do. Shocking I know, but it's true.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:57 AM   #1551
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Did you seriously just compare trading Tyreek Hill for 5 picks to Derrick Thomas dying?

JFC. Some of you have lost any and all sense of perspective.
No he didn't say they were the same. He said the last time he felt this emotional about the loss of a player (no longer with the chiefs) was DT...and I agree. The realization you won't see them play for the chiefs is the same...death or trade, they're not going to be a part of our Sunday games anymore. No one is saying death and trade are the same.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:58 AM   #1552
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Its not about 1 year though, its about multiple year cap impacts. Which is why Clark just had to restructure and why Jones will have to restructure.

Why do you think Hill had a $20MM cap this season? He wasn't making $20MM.

Mahomes cap hits are going to increase significantly at some point as well.
My bad, for clarificaiton, those are cap hit numbers I gave. My point remains, KC hasn't spent and structured wisely. Yes, Clark had to restructure, but he still cost KC almost 26 mil last year and will cost another nearly 14 mil against the cap this year. Quite frankly, he's sucked the last two years.
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The compensation difference is massive, I would imagine. Easy to say if you’re talking going from $150k to $200k annually.
With no state income tax in Florida it helps sweeten the deal but like I said, the lifestyle change between $21MM a year and $25.5MM a year is negligible.

If it isn't, no amount of $ is going to be enough to sustain you down the road.
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Old 03-24-2022, 07:59 AM   #1554
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My bad, for clarificaiton, those are cap hit numbers I gave. My point remains, KC hasn't spent and structured wisely. Yes, Clark had to restructure, but he still cost KC almost 26 mil last year and will cost another nearly 14 mil against the cap this year. Quite frankly, he's sucked the last two years.
Keeping Hill and having never signed Clark sounds great in hindsight, but that's all it is.
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Old 03-24-2022, 08:00 AM   #1555
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I can tell you without question, I would take less $ to stay in a better place with better teammates. I've been offered jobs that would have paid more and turned them down.


Hill made it clear it was all about $ and we have all seen this play out many many many times in the NFL and other sports, it rarely works for the player in the long run when it comes to helping their legacy.
He’s already an All Pro and Super Bowl champ. He may see his legacy as a success already, so now it’s time to collect every last dime he can.

Maybe not the way I would do it, but I won’t resent him for it.

At least he didn’t make a huge public scene about it and kill our leverage in a trade.

Would’ve sucked to be forced to unload him for like just a second round pick or get outbid in free agency.
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Who cares if he wanted to leave? I’m still dumbfounded that we had him under contract for one more year and could have kept him on the relatively cheap next year and then traded him next year for the same value of picks.
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Who cares if he wanted to leave? I’m still dumbfounded that we had him under contract for one more year and could have kept him on the relatively cheap next year and then traded him next year for the same value of picks.
He was going to sit out. This has been mentioned several times.
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One thing nobody really seems to be mentioning and it's the most simple of all this; Hill didn't want to be here anymore. He lives in Miami and wanted to be there.

Believe it or not, some players don't love the Kansas City Chiefs as much as we do. Shocking I know, but it's true.
Did Hill see the weather outside? You don't get that kind of awsome stuff in Miami.
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Who cares if he wanted to leave? I’m still dumbfounded that we had him under contract for one more year and could have kept him on the relatively cheap next year and then traded him next year for the same value of picks.
You wouldn’t have got the same deal next year as you did yesterday…
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