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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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I can see why everybody isn’t quick to anoint Pat. Tons of good QB’s started hot and came back to Earth over time.
RGIII, Watson, Dak and Carr were all proclaimed franchise QB’s after a small sample size and then crashed hard. Mahomes isn’t going to crash with his talent, Andy Reid’s playcalling and the surrounding talent, but I get why they are bullish.
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"He has a lot of talent around him" They say this as if it's routine for QB's to start out this way and turn into Trent Dilfer. Veteran surefire HALL OF FAMERS on loaded rosters never started this hot. That's something to, you know, consider. |
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In Watson's case they looked at stats. With Dak they looked at stats. With RGIII, they looked at stats. Watch the ****ing games. You could see the holes in all of their game. Dak wasn't aggressive. Watson is careless and tends to run a pretty basic pick and stick style offense. RGIII was running read option AND pick and stick offense with hardly any burden to read the defense. Again, if anyone can tell me the glaring holes in his game in spite of his statistical success, I'm all ears. Dude has played like a veteran. It's like everything is happening in slow motion around him. Carr was a bit more of legit fool's gold, but you could see his weaknesses against certain pressure packages when they played KC. We haven't seen Mahomes weaknesses yet. What we get instead are a lot of allegations about weaknesses that we haven't actually SEEN. |
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This board is like a giddy schoolgirl. I think i just peed a little.
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That dude's competitive fire burns with the power of a thousand suns. He was put on this Earth to do one ****ing thing - WIN. No wonder he does nothing but eat, sleep and study film. He gives zero ****s about anything else. ![]() And I hate the "he's so lucky he had a year to learn from Alex" narrative. You know Alex realized there's levels to this shit as soon as he saw Mahomes throw for the first time. After that, Alex immediately pulled his phone out and started dialing his real estate agent.
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I said early last year that Watson was living off the "throw it up for grabs" bombs... and it wasn't sustainable. Jury is still out on him...but I doubt he is ever an "elite" QB. I dont think Goff will be anything more than above average...his long ball touch is terrible. Carr has been around long enough that we all have a pretty good idea of his ceiling...he's "very good" but doesn't have that intrinsic killer quality like Brady/Favre/Ben. I haven't seen enough of Wentz to make an educated opinion... I do think Mayfield has potential to be a star...and predicted Dorsey would take him #1. If Cleveland ever pulls it's head out of it own ass...Mahomes vs. Mayfield will make for some interesting games. Last edited by BlackOp; 09-20-2018 at 12:03 AM.. |
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Yeah, I am sure Alex was a great mentor and everything, but can we hear about it a little more? And can we give the kid a little credit? He busted his ass getting here. And it is obvious to anyone that he is doing plenty of stuff Alex didn't teach him.
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Watson had a lot of prayers answered, which inflated his numbers.
I think a lot of that was a fluke. Watson other than his athletic ability, didn't really pass the eye test for me. Has accuracy issues. Always thought he was going to come back down to Earth. Carr just turns the ball over way too much, maybe I'm a little biased because he always plays like shit vs KC. With the WR's he has, he should be doing a lot better IMO. Dak doesn't have anyone to throw to. He's not good enough to put the team on his back. Arm sucks too. He even has one of the best OL the league's seen in yrs.
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AS11 could have been an ass when Mahomes was drafted (ala Rapetheburger) and he didn't go there. That's according to Reid, Nagy, Kafka, Mahomes himself, Mahomes' dog, every player who's commented on the subject, and every reporter that's close to the team ... they've all said the same thing. (Except the dog, he said it a little different.) They have repeatedly confirmed that AS11 was generous with his time and knowledge and held nothing back. Whatever shortcomings Alex has, he's a pro's pro and he demonstrated that quality when it came to Mahomes.
Mahomes has specifically said that he learned how to prepare, how to analyze film, how to read NFL defenses ... all of that and more from watching and talking with Alex. You want to take that away, too? It's simply unfortunate that people want to deny AS11 the courtesy of recognizing a good deed that pays off for them. Sad, in fact. FAX |
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What I did see were the absolute garbage-time prayers he repeatedly threw up against our despicable secondary which padded his early stats. Dik benefited from an incredibly talented o-line and a run game that was scary good. The talking noggins decided he was the second coming based on box scores. I honestly don't believe these talking nogs watch the games. I don't believe they do. FAX |
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I really do think that Rodgers, Mahomes and Wentz will be the premier QB’s of this league when Brady and Brees retire in a year or two.
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