Veach is the best GM in the NFL

[staylor26]

I don’t think it’s even debatable at this point

[RealSNR]

National media gives a ton of love to Lynch and Rat Jr, but there needs to be some balanced criticism, recognizing a huuuuuuge shortcoming of theirs.

2017 was a complete epic disaster for Lynch. He sat there with his supposed QB whisperer head coach, looked at the QBs in that draft, and said, "I'll pass." In my opinion, that is JUST as bad as taking a busted QB with a high pick, which he conveniently has also done. And it turns out even after his little trade down with the Bears, he STILL had the opportunity to take two elite starters (until one of them, well... you know...) and didn't recognize greatness when it stared up at him, even though he had nobody at the position he was married to. Janeane wasn't even a 49er yet at the time.

With that team and Mahomes? Does anybody think they wouldn't have won the last 4 Super Bowls? Or at least 3 of the last 4? Instead they've got one appearance, some wasted draft picks on a presumable bust, and now they're trying to marry themselves to an impressive yet small and brittle Brock Purdy.

They got sooooo much love for their 2017 draft. They were "smart" for not taking a QB. Solomon Thomas was what smart GMs do. The other teams who trade up for QBs are always reaching, and they just don't get it! Well, the results are in, and that was 100% incorrect. And nobody ever talks about it. It's only ever, "look at that blue chip pass rusher he got with a top 5 pick! What a stud GM!"

[Mecca]

To show you how much things change quickly, Solomon Thomas went 3rd what 6 years ago?

Gervon Dexter is almost the same prospect and he's a round 2 guy.

[RealSNR]

Also, it's funny how two supposed Andy Reid puppets are the top two GMs in the league. Wonder how that happened?

[Pitt Gorilla]

People referenced it previously, but here's the link to Rosenthal's rankings:

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-gm-powe...s-makes-his-ma

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

National media gives a ton of love to Lynch and Rat Jr, but there needs to be some balanced criticism, recognizing a huuuuuuge shortcoming of theirs.

2017 was a complete epic disaster for Lynch. He sat there with his supposed QB whisperer head coach, looked at the QBs in that draft, and said, "I'll pass." In my opinion, that is JUST as bad as taking a busted QB with a high pick, which he conveniently has also done. And it turns out even after his little trade down with the Bears, he STILL had the opportunity to take two elite starters (until one of them, well... you know...) and didn't recognize greatness when it stared up at him, even though he had nobody at the position he was married to. Janeane wasn't even a 49er yet at the time.

With that team and Mahomes? Does anybody think they wouldn't have won the last 4 Super Bowls? Or at least 3 of the last 4? Instead they've got one appearance, some wasted draft picks on a presumable bust, and now they're trying to marry themselves to an impressive yet small and brittle Brock Purdy.

They got sooooo much love for their 2017 draft. They were "smart" for not taking a QB. Solomon Thomas was what smart GMs do. The other teams who trade up for QBs are always reaching, and they just don't get it! Well, the results are in, and that was 100% incorrect. And nobody ever talks about it. It's only ever, "look at that blue chip pass rusher he got with a top 5 pick! What a stud GM!"

The Lynch/Junior Shanny regime also inherited Kaep, who would have been ideal in the system.

[RunKC]

Let's do a head count here. The last 3 drafts outside of this year.


2022
Trent McDuffie
George Karlaftis
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Leo Chenal
Josh Williams
Darian Kinnard
Jaylen Watson
Isiah Pacheco
Nazeeh Johnson

2021
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Josh Kaindoh
Noah Gray
Cornell Powell
Trey Smith

2020
CEH
Willie Gay
Lucas Niang
L'Jarius Sneed
Mike Danna
Thakarius Keyes

I would consider all of the bold as draft hits, which ranges from a possible blue chip player to a solid starter on a cheap rookie contract. Not sure many teams compared to this. Maybe Philly or Dallas?

[TwistedChief]

Yeah, he can build a SB roster, but if he can't draft WR talent, I don't think he's a good fit as GM for us.

[O.city]

The CEH one just ****ing sucks what happened there.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let's do a head count here. The last 3 drafts outside of this year.


2022
Trent McDuffie
George Karlaftis
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Leo Chenal
Josh Williams
Darian Kinnard
Jaylen Watson
Isiah Pacheco
Nazeeh Johnson

2021
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Josh Kaindoh
Noah Gray
Cornell Powell
Trey Smith

2020
CEH
Willie Gay
Lucas Niang
L'Jarius Sneed
Mike Danna
Thakarius Keyes

I would consider all of the bold as draft hits, which ranges from a possible blue chip player to a solid starter on a cheap rookie contract. Not sure many teams compared to this. Maybe Philly or Dallas?

I’m a major CEH hater, but he’s scored 17 TDs in 3 season.

If that’s one of our misses? We’re in good shape.

Yes, he is a miss but not the Breeland Speaks level of miss.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let's do a head count here. The last 3 drafts outside of this year.


2022
Trent McDuffie
George Karlaftis
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Leo Chenal
Josh Williams
Darian Kinnard
Jaylen Watson
Isiah Pacheco
Nazeeh Johnson

2021
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Josh Kaindoh
Noah Gray
Cornell Powell
Trey Smith

2020
CEH
Willie Gay
Lucas Niang
L'Jarius Sneed
Mike Danna
Thakarius Keyes

I would consider all of the bold as draft hits, which ranges from a possible blue chip player to a solid starter on a cheap rookie contract. Not sure many teams compared to this. Maybe Philly or Dallas?

My only disagreement is that I think the jury is still out on Cook. Not saying he hasn't contributed, but as a decent, consistent guy? We'll see. On the other hand I'd call Naz Johnson a hit as a 7th rounder who regularly stood out on STs. That's a lot of contributors no doubt.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by JPH83

My only disagreement is that I think the jury is still out on Cook. Not saying he hasn't contributed, but as a decent, consistent guy? We'll see. On the other hand I'd call Naz Johnson a hit as a 7th rounder who regularly stood out on STs. That's a lot of contributors no doubt.

If the wE dOnT pLEh iNN tEh SOOpErBOwL wIToUT JoNeS sACK oN 3Rd aND aTe window lickers are correct, then the same is also true that without Cook swatting that pass that ended up as an interception, we don't win that game.

Since, you know, games are decided on singular plays that aren't the last play of the game.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

If the wE dOnT pLEh iNN tEh SOOpErBOwL wIToUT JoNeS sACK oN 3Rd aND aTe window lickers are correct, then the same is also true that without Cook swatting that pass that ended up as an interception, we don't win that game.

Since, you know, games are decided on singular plays that aren't the last play of the game.

Well, yeah, I mean maybe not. Pretty big play.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

The talent is there, we need to play clean football. Penalties, drops, and turnovers have been AIDS the first two weeks.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

If the wE dOnT pLEh iNN tEh SOOpErBOwL wIToUT JoNeS sACK oN 3Rd aND aTe window lickers are correct, then the same is also true that without Cook swatting that pass that ended up as an interception, we don't win that game.

Since, you know, games are decided on singular plays that aren't the last play of the game.

The Jones sack has been explained to you multiple times. Either you are unwilling or unable to grasp what is being explained and why the two scenarios above are not the same thing.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let's do a head count here. The last 3 drafts outside of this year.


2022
Trent McDuffie
George Karlaftis
Skyy Moore
Bryan Cook
Leo Chenal
Josh Williams
Darian Kinnard
Jaylen Watson
Isiah Pacheco
Nazeeh Johnson

2021
Nick Bolton
Creed Humphrey
Josh Kaindoh
Noah Gray
Cornell Powell
Trey Smith

2020
CEH
Willie Gay
Lucas Niang
L'Jarius Sneed
Mike Danna
Thakarius Keyes

I would consider all of the bold as draft hits, which ranges from a possible blue chip player to a solid starter on a cheap rookie contract. Not sure many teams compared to this. Maybe Philly or Dallas?

You can't be good unless you draft well. Drafting poorly is a highway to hell. The Chiefs of the mid to late 70s were pretty bad and if you look up their drafts from that era it's pretty easy to understand why.