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**KcMizzou** · 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM

Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)

TheGuardian · 03-20-2011, 01:05 PM

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I'm with you 100%. I mean sooner or later he'll get beat by just getting caught or leaving himself open. With that said, he'll avenge any loss. Right now there's no one who's going to beat him twice, and it will take a little luck to even beat him once. He's a bad dude!

You can just replace Jones name with Lesnar's from a year ago.

Like I said, let the guy win against some adversity first. Once Lesnar got tagged, he got exposed. Someone will eventually find a whole in Jones game and exploit it. Then we'll find out how good he really is.

BigCatDaddy · 03-20-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

And he still has a lot of question marks.

What happens when he gets rocked? When someone can take him down and hold him?

See I never buy into fighter hype because until a guy has faced a lot of different situations, he has question marks. It's like everyone riding Lesnar's nuts when I kept asking the same thing. What happens when he gets tagged? Everyone said it didn't matter. But it did. Turned out, he couldn't take a punch without turtling up like a pussy.

Jones is the flavor of the week. I'm not saying he couldn't end up being a great champ, but he's got a lot of things he still needs to show before people can start hailing him as so be all end all. The only guy he's beaten thus far, is Shogun. Nice start. Now he has a target on him and let's see how he responds.

But that's what makes him so good. He doesn't get hit and it would be damn tought to do so. I might be forgetting a time, but when was the last time GSP was actually in trouble in a fight and was tested? Seems like it's been awhile. Avoiding punishment is a big part of the game.

BigCatDaddy · 03-20-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

You can just replace Jones name with Lesnar's from a year ago.

Like I said, let the guy win against some adversity first. Once Lesnar got tagged, he got exposed. Someone will eventually find a whole in Jones game and exploit it. Then we'll find out how good he really is.

Jones has proven to be much better in all aspects of the game then Lesnar did.

TheGuardian · 03-20-2011, 01:26 PM

I don't disagree that Jones is about a bazillion more times talented than Lesnar, my point is let him face some adversity in the ring. If he wins like 9 fights in a row and is never in trouble, then that is in fact facing adversity in and of itself.

But the boy hasn't been tested through and through yet. AS I noted, someone will find a weakness and exploit it, and the true test of a champ is coming back from that.

GSP has a bit of a suspect chin.

Silva can't deal with with good wrestlers.

Lesnar couldn't take a punch without turning into worlds biggest pussay.

Chuck Liddell turned out to have a suspect chin as well (rampage found it first)

EVery fighter has a weakness. Jones is young and hasn't fought a ton. Lots of ability but like every fighter walking the planet, he has a weakness and someone will find it. Thats why I don't jump on these bangwagons. I wait to see if a guy can hack it after he's been through the grinder a bit.

TrickyNicky · 03-20-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I might be forgetting a time, but when was the last time GSP was actually in trouble in a fight and was tested?

I remember reading an article after Silva KO'ed Belfort about Silva's current streak. It was comparing him to GSP. The article said that GSP hasn't lost a round since the Serra loss.

**SAUTO** · 03-20-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

I remember reading an article after Silva KO'ed Belfort about Silva's current streak. It was comparing him to GSP. The article said that GSP hasn't lost a round since the Serra loss.

I don't know that I agree with that.

Probably someones opinion.
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BigCatDaddy · 03-20-2011, 04:45 PM

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I don't know that I agree with that.

Probably someones opinion.
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Looking back at those fights that actually sounds right which is amazing considering most of those were 5 rounds.

Titty Meat · 03-20-2011, 04:47 PM

I've watched 3 or 4 of these UFC fight nights now and I gotta say this shit is amazing.

Jerm · 03-20-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I don't know that I agree with that.

Probably someones opinion.
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Well if you can think of one, I'm all ears...he's been completely dominant.

Regarding Bones, he looked an entire weight class bigger than Shogun, Rogan mentioned it during the fight....that's where his advantage is. His length and reach makes it hard for anyone to get close enough to do damage.

I really don't know anyone at 205 that can even find any weaknesses to exploit...he does such a great job keeping everyone on the outside and even if they get close in like Shogun did a couple of times, he makes them pay.

**pr_capone** · 03-20-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Well if you can think of one, I'm all ears...he's been completely dominant.

Regarding Bones, he looked an entire weight class bigger than Shogun, Rogan mentioned it during the fight....that's where his advantage is. His length and reach makes it hard for anyone to get close enough to do damage.

I really don't know anyone at 205 that can even find any weaknesses to exploit...he does such a great job keeping everyone on the outside and even if they get close in like Shogun did a couple of times, he makes them pay.

Jones vs Silva would be an epic battle.

BigCatDaddy · 03-20-2011, 05:27 PM

Just researched it. GSP has indeed won every single round since regaining the title and had some 10-8 in there as well. He won 4 out of 5 via unamous decision scoring 50 on each score card and won all 3 rounds vs Penn before the stoppage. Thats not against chumps either. That's Fitch, Alves, Koschek, Penn, and Hardy.

That's just sick.

TheGuardian · 03-20-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just researched it. GSP has indeed won every single round since regaining the title and had some 10-8 in there as well. He won 4 out of 5 via unamous decision scoring 50 on each score card and won all 3 rounds vs Penn before the stoppage. Thats not against chumps either. That's Fitch, Alves, Koschek, Penn, and Hardy.

That's just sick.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah that seems about right I guess.

Wow. I hadn't even thought of it.

****ing amazing. And yet it still seems like GSP doesn't get the cred he deserves really. If he gets past Jake Shields, and I expect him to, the fight with Silva is going to be ****ing epic.

Jerm · 03-20-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Jones vs Silva would be an epic battle.

I may be nuts but I wanna see that fight a lot more than Silva vs. GSP...esp. considering GSP doesn't seem to keen on moving up to 85.

Jerm · 03-20-2011, 06:39 PM

If Dana goes ahead with GSP vs. Anderson, I'd LOVE to see Bones vs. Mousasi...sadly we probably won't get that fight either.

**SAUTO** · 03-20-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just researched it. GSP has indeed won every single round since regaining the title and had some 10-8 in there as well. He won 4 out of 5 via unamous decision scoring 50 on each score card and won all 3 rounds vs Penn before the stoppage. Thats not against chumps either. That's Fitch, Alves, Koschek, Penn, and Hardy.

That's just sick.

yeah I just got done doing the same thing.

I was wrong.
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03-20-2011, 01:26 PM	#1534
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $7635299	I don't disagree that Jones is about a bazillion more times talented than Lesnar, my point is let him face some adversity in the ring. If he wins like 9 fights in a row and is never in trouble, then that is in fact facing adversity in and of itself. But the boy hasn't been tested through and through yet. AS I noted, someone will find a weakness and exploit it, and the true test of a champ is coming back from that. GSP has a bit of a suspect chin. Silva can't deal with with good wrestlers. Lesnar couldn't take a punch without turning into worlds biggest pussay. Chuck Liddell turned out to have a suspect chin as well (rampage found it first) EVery fighter has a weakness. Jones is young and hasn't fought a ton. Lots of ability but like every fighter walking the planet, he has a weakness and someone will find it. Thats why I don't jump on these bangwagons. I wait to see if a guy can hack it after he's been through the grinder a bit.
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03-20-2011, 04:47 PM	#1538
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $737558	I've watched 3 or 4 of these UFC fight nights now and I gotta say this shit is amazing.
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03-20-2011, 05:27 PM	#1541
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $129122	Just researched it. GSP has indeed won every single round since regaining the title and had some 10-8 in there as well. He won 4 out of 5 via unamous decision scoring 50 on each score card and won all 3 rounds vs Penn before the stoppage. Thats not against chumps either. That's Fitch, Alves, Koschek, Penn, and Hardy. That's just sick.
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03-20-2011, 06:39 PM	#1544
Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4848996	If Dana goes ahead with GSP vs. Anderson, I'd LOVE to see Bones vs. Mousasi...sadly we probably won't get that fight either.
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