Rashee Rice [legal issues megathread]

[DaFace]

The other thread is a dumpster fire. I'm sure this will become one as well, but might as well start with a clean slate. I'll at least try to keep the OP updated with any notable news. Feel free to PM me if I miss anything good.

Arrest warrant and potential charges:

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BREAKING: An arrest warrant has been issued for Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice in connection to his involvement in a multi-vehicle crash on U.S. 75 in Dallas in late March, sources tell WFAA. https://t.co/XL3F7oCuW1

— WFAA (@wfaa) April 10, 2024

Rice, 23, now faces eight charges in the case -- six counts of collision involving bodily injury, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and one count of aggravated assault, according to the arrest warrant. All of the charges are felonies.

Collision involving injury carries a penalty of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for not more than five years or confinement in the county jail for not more than one year, a fine fine not to exceed $5,000 or both. Collision involving serious bodily injury -- a third-degree felony -- carries a punishment of imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years. Aggravated assault -- a second-degree felony -- is punishable by two to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000.

Analysis from a defense attorney:

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Originally Posted by DaFace

This is a pretty good thread from a defense attorney on the matter.

TL;DR, his concern was at a 2, and now it's a 4 (out of 10). Still probably not a huge deal, but there are some concerning possibilities. Overall, though, he thinks it all gets pled down to misdemeanors, he misses a couple of games, and he writes some massive checks to those he injured.

Turned himself in and now out on bail:

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Originally Posted by In58men

Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Rashee Rice has turned himself in to police after a warrant was issued for his arrest on Wednesday evening. https://t.co/rSp9IRRlFn pic.twitter.com/GlK4sB1XJM

— FOX4 News Kansas City (@fox4kc) April 12, 2024

Originally Posted by In58men

New avatar!!!

BREAKING: DeSoto PD releases #RasheeRice's booking photo.

Again, the Kansas City Chiefs receiver is no longer in the DeSoto Jail after posting a $40k bond.

(@wfaa) pic.twitter.com/IegZg3GFtL

— Matt Howerton (@HowertonNews) April 12, 2024

Random minutiae:

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

#Chiefs WR Rashee Rice and former SMU CB Theodore Knox are being sued for $1 million by two victims of the March 30 crash in Dallas, Texas, for severe injuries, including 'trauma to the brain, lacerations to the face requiring stitches, multiple contusions about the body,… pic.twitter.com/RlDvilVLi6

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 15, 2024

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes said he's worked with Rashee Rice throughout the offseason and will continue to do so while the legal process plays out for Rice..

— PJ Green (@PJGreenTV) April 15, 2024

[DJ's left nut]

Honestly, I feel like this can only help KC.

I mean whats the NFL going to do? They gonna drop the hammer on Rice while not doing it to Addison? Or Flowers for that matter? Or are they going to 'make an example' of 3 of the best young WRs to emerge from last years draft?

At the very least, they're gonna have to be consistent. I just can't see them flinging 5+ game suspensions all over the place here without massive pushback.

[chiefzilla1501]

Yeah I mean Sutton's penalty has pretty much set the bar that the worst of the worst is gonna get you 8. I think rashee will get off light. I'm fine with that. I just hope he genuinely learns his lesson and hope he doesn't see this as "getting away with it." Take the penalty and put the actual work in to prove he's learning from this

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think the argument has always been that not every member of the Black Sox was in on the fix, and that Jackson almost certainly was not as he hit like.400 plus that series.

Other than that, I agree. The proliferation of endorsed sports betting at the level it is will be a problem sooner or later.

The problem with that argument is that Jackson's numbers in 'fixed' games vs games that weren't fixed, and in key spots vs in moments where the game was decided, was STARK.

Moreover, if you look at his grand jury testimony, he ADMITS he took part in the fix.

Q: Did anybody pay you any money to help throw the series in favor of Cincinnatti?

A: They did.

Q: How much did they pay?

A: The promised me $20,000 and paid me five.

* * *

Q: Then you went ahead and threw the second game, thinking you would get it then, is that right?

A: We went ahead and threw the second game, we went after him again . . .

Now you can argue he changed his mind or that he wasn't fully sold on it. Or that he was half-hearted in his attempts. But Jackson took part in the fix. He was 0-6 with RISP over the first 5 games of the series (the ones known to be fixed) and didn't get an XBH with runners on base until game 8.

He absolutely took part in the fix. He deserved to be banned with all the rest of them. Even if they were the ringleaders or were more committed to the cause, the fact remains that Jackson clearly participated and it wasn't until AFTER the team decided to 'play it straight'. Jackson hit .250 with zero RBI's in the first 4 games (games the team knowingly agreed to fix) and in a 5th game he got an RBI when his squad was already losing 10-1. With runners on 1st and 2nd in game 3 (a fixed game) and nobody out while down 2-0, Jackson popped out on a bunt attempt. I mean...yikes.

When the players abandoned the fix, he hit .545 with 6 RBIs.

No - Jackson got what he deserved, IMO.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The problem with that argument is that Jackson's numbers in 'fixed' games vs games that weren't fixed, and in key spots vs in moments where the game was decided, was STARK.

Moreover, if you look at his grand jury testimony, he ADMITS he took part in the fix.



Now you can argue he changed his mind or that he wasn't fully sold on it. Or that he was half-hearted in his attempts. But Jackson took part in the fix. He was 0-6 with RISP over the first 5 games of the series (the ones known to be fixed) and didn't get an XBH with runners on base until game 8.

He absolutely took part in the fix. He deserved to be banned with all the rest of them. Even if they were the ringleaders or were more committed to the cause, the fact remains that Jackson clearly participated and it wasn't until AFTER the team decided to 'play it straight'. Jackson hit .250 with zero RBI's in the first 4 games (games the team knowingly agreed to fix) and in a 5th game he got an RBI when his squad was already losing 10-1. With runners on 1st and 2nd in game 3 (a fixed game) and nobody out while down 2-0, Jackson popped out on a bunt attempt. I mean...yikes.

When the players abandoned the fix, he hit .545 with 6 RBIs.

No - Jackson got what he deserved, IMO.

Yep, I did some research on this a decade or so ago. He took the money. Hit well below his average in the games that were agreed to be fixed. He was guilty.

[Sassy Squatch]

Think it may go the other way personally, especially after a teammate just died in Addison's case. Sure, they'd look like ****ing idiots after giving Sutton 8 games for essentially attempted murder but I'm sure the league is getting ****ing sick and tired of these dipshits driving like maniacs and putting themselves and others at risk, especially after Ruggs. Could see a severe hammer drop.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Yep, I did some research on this a decade or so ago. He took the money. Hit well below his average in the games that were agreed to be fixed. He was guilty.

I had to take an 'interdisciplinary studies' class as a graduation requirement in college and they had a sports literature class I took.

Obviously we read 8 Men Out and we had to write a paper on it. My paper was essentially exploring the "Shoeless Joe was Wrongfully Accused" angle because it was picking up steam at that time.

It wasn't much of a paper; no sort of hard-hitting novel or anything. Simple little 3 pager but I really was certain when it was done that he was in on the fix. And honestly, I'm not sure how anyone wouldn't be at this point.

[Kiimo]

Yeah I'm not sure how DUIs turning into an epidemic is somehow good for Rice other than just always look on the bright side of life

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I'm sure the league is getting ****ing sick and tired of these dipshits driving like maniacs and putting themselves and others at risk.

Put yourself at risk all you want but some person just trying to get from point A to point B in their life doesn't deserve to be the recipient of the stupidity one chooses to willingly partake.

It's not like there isn't uber, taxis, and friends and/or family a cell phone away.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Think it may go the other way personally, especially after a teammate just died in Addison's case. Sure, they'd look like ****ing idiots after giving Sutton 8 games for essentially attempted murder but I'm sure the league is getting ****ing sick and tired of these dipshits driving like maniacs and putting themselves and others at risk, especially after Ruggs. Could see a severe hammer drop.

Dude, they aren't putting these guys in the same boat as domestic violence. Zero chance.

[Kiimo]

I posted it in the Jordan Addison thread but him straight up asleep blocking a lane on the 105 and Sepulveda is bonkers to me.

Rice racing cars and then leaving is bad. This is incredibly worse.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

Yeah I'm not sure how DUIs turning into an epidemic is somehow good for Rice other than just always look on the bright side of life

It's akin to the Seahawks approach to holding back in the legion of zoom days...

"They ain't gonna flag 'em all..."

One dude has an issue and I could see them trying to bury him. 3 dudes have issues (and your dude isn't the worst of the lot) and they're going to have a pretty tough time singling your guy out and blasting him. Or blasting all of them.

It's the most bizarre strength in numbers example imaginable, but I think it does work.

[Katipan]

The law turning what he did into all sorts of funny funny felonies is an emotional law. I don’t want you guys to be sad but you’re going to be sad.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's akin to the Seahawks approach to holding back in the legion of zoom days...

"They ain't gonna flag 'em all..."

One dude has an issue and I could see them trying to bury him. 3 dudes have issues (and your dude isn't the worst of the lot) and they're going to have a pretty tough time singling your guy out and blasting him. Or blasting all of them.

It's the most bizarre strength in numbers example imaginable, but I think it does work.

I'd be more concerned if they didn't just give Sutton 8 games for something far worse. I think combining your point with that makes a lot of sense.

[Kiimo]

I could say well the fact that Rice wasn't drunk is certainly a good thing.

But also it's not like he got a breathalyzer considering he left the scene.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Otter

Wait, so blocking traffic is worse than causing accidents that send people to the hospital for racing and then leaving the scene of the accident you caused? Backing up an entire artery highway in Texas?

Explain this to me please.

I'm hoping for the best for the Chiefs but I'm genuinely curious to the logic you're putting together with this conclusion.

Umm you either quoted the wrong person or you need to read my post again.