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Old 05-21-2012, 09:43 PM  
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:28 PM   #1486
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I think Hitler's human test subject would agree with me too, if they were alive.
I'm not sure I'd take that bet, if offered.
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:31 PM   #1487
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No, robots will never = humans.
OK, no rights for the robots. So the new you, freshly digitized and downloaded into your new robot body, is put on shit shoveling duty for eternity or until your parts wear out, whichever comes first. You still think you're you. Still the same guy beneath that hard metallic skin, but now you get to shovel shit with no breaks, forever.
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:33 PM   #1488
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:44 PM   #1489
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Maybe, but you can make that same argument for any tech advance.

If we can hands free type on a computer using our brains, it doesn't seem to big a leap in imagination that if we can already get information out of the brain, we can put info in.
Like he said in the interview, they have already implanted memories in mice.

Also think they have successfully watched people's dreams.
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:49 PM   #1490
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So do these digitized and downloaded brains have rights? Can they vote? Can they hook up their brain to an apache helicopter and mow people down? Can I reach over and turn them off if they are bothering me? Can they decide that our meat bag bodies are inferior and wipe the rest of us out? Can they have a billion copies of themselves downloaded into separate robot bodies and be everywhere at once? Can they be hacked? Would we really be improving the human race or ensuring its destruction?

No, really, sounds like a great idea.
Most of these problems will have already been encountered by AI long before we have the computing power to mimic the human brain...
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:53 PM   #1491
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Most of these problems will have already been encountered by AI long before we have the computing power to mimic the human brain...
From what I gather, they want to plug the AI into people's brains and become a hybrid superhuman. I think we'll be dealing with these issues at, or close to, the same time.
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From what I gather, they want to plug the AI into people's brains and become a hybrid superhuman. I think we'll be dealing with these issues at, or close to, the same time.
We already use very simple AI.

With what we have now.

Duplicating the human brain is a long way off...
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Old 02-26-2014, 04:57 PM   #1493
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Like he said in the interview, they have already implanted memories in mice.

Also think they have successfully watched people's dreams.
Also of note.. I can't remember if it's been posted here, but I recently read about a similar technology in which they've found a way to erase bad memories from a brain, while leaving the good ones. A'la Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind movie. Intended for PTSD treatment and such.
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Also of note.. I can't remember if it's been posted here, but I recently read about a similar technology in which they've found a way to erase bad memories from a brain, while leaving the good ones. A'la Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind movie. Intended for PTSD treatment and such.
Between that and the ability to already implant memories in mice, I can see some good medical advances happening from this tech. But **** me if everyone can't see a little danger here.
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Between that and the ability to already implant memories in mice, I can see some good medical advances happening from this tech. But **** me if everyone can't see a little danger here.
I can see the danger, but after one treatment I won't any more.
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Between that and the ability to already implant memories in mice, I can see some good medical advances happening from this tech. But **** me if everyone can't see a little danger here.
Why don't you pray about this at your church? No danger there of anyone ever getting carried away with taking human lives.
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