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Old 12-15-2024, 08:06 PM  
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What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?
I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
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Mahomes used to catch heat for "drifting back in the pocket." Technique wise it's not ideal, I get that. But it would buy him an extra second before the rush got to him and I wonder if he throws a better deep ball when he's drifting backwards a little.
Now he runs forward into pressure and gets smoked.
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Begging you guys to watch the game and focus on our receivers. Kelce is NOT the same Kelce from 2022. He’s 35. He’s clearly lost a step.

The pass to Kelce looked slightly off. It really looks like Mahomes is used to throwing to a spot Kelce used to be in and now he’s not getting there as fast.

Seriously. Watch Kelce specifically. He’s slowed down A LOT
As I've said before Kelce is better at TE than anyone ever. Expecting Patrick to play as good as he did during Kelces prime probably wont ever happen again unless we reload with WR playmakers. Im hoping Hollywoods return makes a dent and LT is fixed by Humphries though for this year.
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Now he runs forward into pressure and gets smoked.
That’s bc teams adjusted to not let him out of the pocket often. SF used that gameplan beautifully in the SB and it worked most of the game.
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On the Browns shot to Worthy...there's no way the drop back is actually designed like that in the playbook right? Open up left, turn and fake handoff to the right. Turn again to the left for some reason. Finally turn right to throw. No way that's the actual play design.
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Actually I've seen that before. That's how it's designed. That actually looks fairly fluid, he just overcooked it. He overcooked it because he wants to err on the side of overthrowing because of Worthy's speed, and his latent yips from being picked.
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On the Browns shot to Worthy...there's no way the drop back is actually designed like that in the playbook right? Open up left, turn and fake handoff to the right. Turn again to the left for some reason. Finally turn right to throw. No way that's the actual play design.
No it's not, he's being incredibly jumpy in the pocket and not setting properly.
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Look at the Broncos miss at :55

He saw the LT appear to be beating the LT again and it sped him up. Look at his footwork. Rushed. No anticipation and poor footwork.

That’s what happens when your QB gets knocked to the ground all game
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Man....so is it ever the high paid QB that's gonna have to figure it out or are we always on the LT or the WRs or the coaches?
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Man....so is it ever the high paid QB that's gonna have to figure it out or are we always on the LT or the WRs or the coaches?
It's kinda frustrating because with the amount of money he makes he is gonna have to cover some of the holes his contract causes.

If he legit needs to have 5 outstanding linemen and high end weapons then he can't be paid like that.
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It's kinda frustrating because with the amount of money he makes he is gonna have to cover some of the holes his contract causes.

If he legit needs to have 5 outstanding linemen and high end weapons then he can't be paid like that.
It’s as bad as it’s ever been and Mahomes is still being Mahomes when it matters.

7 game winning drives. He’s still Mahomes in the clutch
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It's kinda frustrating because with the amount of money he makes he is gonna have to cover some of the holes his contract causes.

If he legit needs to have 5 outstanding linemen and high end weapons then he can't be paid like that.
I love Mahomes as much as the next guy, but I think this upcoming offseason, Mahomes needs to focus on getting some things cleaned up with his game. I know he spends considerable time with his flexibility and throwing to his guys offseason, but has he spent anytime with a QB guru in the offseason. Someone that can get him to focus on his mechanics that gives him a base to go back to when he is struggling like now. Even Peyton Manning, who was as fundamentally sound as any QB that has played, spent considerable time with guys to work on his throwing mechanics. Now seems like the time for Mahomes to seek a new outside eye to help him clean up his game going forward and getting back to where he has been for most of his career.
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It’s as bad as it’s ever been and Mahomes is still being Mahomes when it matters.

7 game winning drives. He’s still Mahomes in the clutch
Yeah, until he stops winning Super Bowls (and more realistically, falling shorter than OT of a playoff game multiple times), not going to extrapolate beyond needing to get his head on straight here in a few weeks (which of course we're all assuming anyway).
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