Football Miami Dolphins Star Jonathan Martin Being Treated For PTSD - Page 10

**Donger** · 11-15-2013, 11:59 AM

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Miami Dolphins offensive tackle Jonathan Martin is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder and depression amidst allegations that he was threatened, harassed and menaced by teammates, chiefly Richie Incognito, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

Martin, 24, is not expected to report back to the team anytime soon, as he works with specialists in Los Angeles and awaits clearance to return.

We’re now learning exactly what he’s being treated for.

“It’s depression and PTSD… which is directly related to the bullying he endured by Richie and other teammates,” a source close to the situation told Radar.

“Jonathan wants to play football again, but he absolutely can’t play for the Miami Dolphins. That said, football isn’t the focus right now. It’s receiving treatment and moving forward.”

The insider said Martin “hates all of the publicity this has gotten,” but added that when the time is right, “Jonathan will speak out about what really happened” inside the Dolphins locker room.

As we previously reported, the Dolphins have suspended Incognito while an investigation takes place — a club suspension for conduct detrimental to the team has a maximum of four weeks, per the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Incognito could appeal as well.

Last weekend, 30-year-old Incognito sat down with Jay Glazer of FOX in an effort to explain vicious voicemails and text messages he’d left for Martin.

“This is not an issue about bullying. This is an issue about my and John’s relationship. I had Jonathan Martin’s back the absolute most,” he said, in the interview.

He also claimed that Martin once texted HIM that he was going to kill “my entire family.”

It was just the way they communicated, Incognito said.

Meanwhile, the NFL formally asked Dolphins owner, Steve Ross, and the team’s CEO, Tom Garfinkel, to postpone their meeting with Martin.

“Ted Wells and the National Football League have asked that we delay our meeting with Jonathan Martin until they have the opportunity to meet with him,” Garfinkel said in a statement earlier this week.

“Out of deference to the process, we will cooperate with their request. We look forward to meeting with Jonathan as soon as possible.”

Martin is expected to meet with the Ted Wells, the special investigator appointed by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in the next few days, a source said.

“Jonathan’s lawyer, David Cornwell has been in constant contact with Ted. The NFL has been very supportive of Jonathan and respects that he is dealing with a very serious mental health conditions,” the source added.

Martin’s lawyer, David Cornwell, didn’t immediately respond to multiple requests for comment.

saphojunkie · 11-15-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Well, I put those in quotes for a reason.

Let me ask you: Are some people more susceptible to depression, PTSD and other mental disorders?

Not PTSD, no.

**Donger** · 11-15-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Not PTSD, no.

Why not?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-15-2013, 02:19 PM

When is it ever not the accuser's fault on ChiefsPlanet?

chiefzilla1501 · 11-15-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Depression is a chronic disease that must be dealt with. Hypertension is chronic, and people seek treatment for it is well. It is possible to have a sick brain, just like sick body.

What I think could swing this case is if the guy deadspin believed to be incognitos dad was right in saying martin was known to be suicidal. If it's true, it changes what should be or not be appropriate behavior.

nychief · 11-15-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Well, I put those in quotes for a reason.

Let me ask you: Are some people more susceptible to depression, PTSD and other mental disorders?

look I'm no expert, but to lump those three things together is not right. Depression and other mental disorders run in families.... PTSD is a whole different thing, it is not genetic. It has to do with the trauma you go through, it can be a ****ing car crash or rape or being married to me. You aren't weak if you suffer, regardless of what caused it.

This argument always comes down to dudes puffing out their chests and thinking they would never be affected by abuse. I think it is more sophisticated than that.

**Rausch** · 11-15-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When is it ever not the accuser's fault on ChiefsPlanet?

When it's a DC thread...

Pitt Gorilla · 11-15-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Because it traumatized me.

You have an actual diagnosis of PTSD from watching a movie? If not, it appears you have no idea what PTSD actually means.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-15-2013, 02:22 PM

Jonathan Martin is a pussy/Guy in Dockers and a Land's End polo, typing in a cube farm, constantly craning his neck so that his boss won't see him on a message board during work hours.

**Donger** · 11-15-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

look I'm no expert, but to lump those three things together is not right. Depression and other mental disorders run in families.... PTSD is a whole different thing, it is not genetic. It has to do with the trauma you go through, it can be a ****ing car crash or rape or being married to me. You aren't weak if you suffer, regardless of what caused it.

This argument always comes down to dudes puffing out their chests and thinking they would never be effected by abuse. I think it is more sophisticated than that.

Actually, I was just reading that there might indeed be a genetic predisposition to it. So, yes, you apparently are not an expert. You may, however, be a cave man.

Steron · 11-15-2013, 02:23 PM

I find it interesting that we are all so quick to dismiss his claim of PTSD as bogus. None of us had any idea what happened in that locker room. Not a single one of us was there. All we have is what has been reported in the media and what Incognito has said. Martin has remained silent.

I understand football players have this macho persona and we expect them to be these ultra-tough manly men that nothing can bother. Especially when you're a 300 pound massive human being.

I have heard and read a lot of people say "I would have just knocked Richie's teeth down his throat." Maybe some of us would have. My guess is it would be an extremely low percentage of us that would follow through on the threat. Obviously Martin wasn't wired that way.

The assertions that Martin is doing this as a "cash grab" and that setting up for a law suit are ridiculous. He has said that he wants to play football again but doesn't feel like he can return to the Miami Dolphins for obvious reasons. Would he admit to PTSD if he ever wanted to play again? I would think this would make him, right or wrong, damaged goods in the eyes of many General Managers.

At the end of the day, maybe - just maybe, what happened in that locker room lead to what Martin is dealing with now.

**Donger** · 11-15-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You have an actual diagnosis of PTSD from watching a movie? If not, it appears you have no idea what PTSD actually means.

Yes. Every time I see or worse, hear, Alec Baldwin, I pee myself.

nychief · 11-15-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jonathan Martin is a pussy/Guy in Dockers and a Land's End polo, typing in a cube farm, constantly craning his neck so that his boss won't see him on a message board during work hours.

So, he is everybody on CP?

nychief · 11-15-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Actually, I was just reading that there might indeed be a genetic predisposition to it. So, yes, you apparently are not an expert. You may, however, be a cave man.

Where are you reading it? Pass it on brother.

**Donger** · 11-15-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

Where are you reading it? Pass it on brother.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topic...sd/index.shtml

nychief · 11-15-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topic...sd/index.shtml

thanks. will read... so this would absolve mr. martin of being a pussy, right?

11-15-2013, 11:59 AM
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Steron Texting Ms. Dobbs Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $9418246	I find it interesting that we are all so quick to dismiss his claim of PTSD as bogus. None of us had any idea what happened in that locker room. Not a single one of us was there. All we have is what has been reported in the media and what Incognito has said. Martin has remained silent. I understand football players have this macho persona and we expect them to be these ultra-tough manly men that nothing can bother. Especially when you're a 300 pound massive human being. I have heard and read a lot of people say "I would have just knocked Richie's teeth down his throat." Maybe some of us would have. My guess is it would be an extremely low percentage of us that would follow through on the threat. Obviously Martin wasn't wired that way. The assertions that Martin is doing this as a "cash grab" and that setting up for a law suit are ridiculous. He has said that he wants to play football again but doesn't feel like he can return to the Miami Dolphins for obvious reasons. Would he admit to PTSD if he ever wanted to play again? I would think this would make him, right or wrong, damaged goods in the eyes of many General Managers. At the end of the day, maybe - just maybe, what happened in that locker room lead to what Martin is dealing with now.
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