Rumor: Chiefs trying to trade DJ and DaJuan Morgan possibly Albert

[dirk digler]

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The NFL trade deadline is Tuesday at 4 PM Eastern time and the rumors are going to be swirling for the next 48 hour or so.
This report come from Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post, who has consistently delivered solid insider info from Arrowhead. He was very close on early reports about Matt Cassel's contract.

I do want to stress that this is a rumor. From Lombardi:
The Chiefs are trying to move former 2005 first-round linebacker Derrick Johnson and 2008 third-round safety DeJuan Morgan.
Todd Haley and Co. are making no secret about their unhappiness with the players they inherited from the previous regime.
I’m hearing they don’t like anyone, including Branden Albert, who they feel is not a left tackle.

Strong words from Lombardi as we near the trade deadline. I do believe Lombardi is correct in his comments about the Kansas City Chiefs and their intentions for those players. At least in the sense that there are a lot of Chiefs players who could possibly be moved for the right price. Jay Glazer said earlier today that the Chiefs are open to trading any player except for Matt Cassel.

Back in August, we caught wind of a rumor that Scott Pioli offered the Detroit Lions DaJuan Morgan for a 4th round pick. The Lions didn't bite, possibly giving us a glimpse into what Morgan may be worth on the open market.

The question is - Will any other team bite on either DJ, DaJuan Morgan or Branden Albert?

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

If the Chiefs trade Albert does that mean the Jared Allen trade wasn't a success?

WTF do you think????

Thanks Carl!!!

[wild1]

Originally Posted by H5N1

nope, classless and deranged.

What does this phrase mean? I have seen several people use it. Is it a quote?

[Shag]

Originally Posted by milkman

Mays got held.

I was screaming at the TV when that happened. Hard to imagine missing a call that blatant...

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Laz

the value of future pick drops each year

how much is a 2nd round pick worth two years from now?

Two years from now it will be worth a 2nd round pick.

[Coach]

Don't be surprised if the Eagles are looking for a LB as well.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

And your reason for having your head up Albert's fat ass is??

It has nothing to do with my "head up Albert's ass"

It has to so with your head, as usual, up yours.

Mike Lombardi is speculating based on reports from OTAs and TC that management is unhappy with Albert and Dorsey.

If you didn't have your head up your ass, you'd know that these are a couple of guys that worked their asses off and haley has nothing but good things to say about them since the preseason.

But, of course, you only see the report your dumb ass wants to see.

I would just like to know how it is you know exactly when to pull your head out your ass to read these dumbass reports?

I have to give you credit.
That's pretty ****ing remarkable.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by penchief

Two years from now it will be worth a 2nd round pick.

i'll tell ya what .... i'll trade a million dollars in 2060 for a million today. Same value, right?




the common theme is that the value drops 1 rd each year.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Laz

i'll tell ya what .... i'll trade a million dollars in 2060 for a million today. Same value, right?




the common theme is that the value drops 1 rd each year.

Which is stupid because when the pick is made it is still a second round pick. Not a third, or a fourth, or anything else. And when that pick is on the clock it will have the same value that it normally would.

Delayed gratification is not any less gratifying.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by penchief

Which is stupid because when the pick is made it is still a second round pick. Not a third, or a fourth, or anything else. And when that pick is on the clock it will have the same value that it normally would.

Delayed gratification is not any less gratifying.

Not really. The thought is that a proper third round pick, that is developed and coached for a year... will be equal to a second round pick the following year.

The other point is that when a team sees a player in the third round they want, but don't have a pick, they will trade a second the following year to have the third in that year.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by penchief

Which is stupid because when the pick is made it is still a second round pick. Not a third, or a fourth, or anything else. And when that pick is on the clock it will have the same value that it normally would.

Delayed gratification is not any less gratifying.

Thats not how it works in the NFL though. Because you have to think you're not getting the value of the trade until a year later. Not to mention that's just one more season you have to wait for a rookie to get accustomed to the league's play.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Thats not how it works in the NFL though. Because you have to think you're not getting the value of the trade until a year later. Not to mention that's just one more season you have to wait for a rookie to get accustomed to the league's play.

There's way too much overanalysis going on here. It's a second round pick. period. If you want to deduct points for waiting I guess that's your preroggative but it in the real world it doesn't make that pick any less valuable when that pick is on the clock.

If another team wants to trade up to that spot they're not going to deduct value because that pick was acquired from another team in a previous season. Waiting to cash in on the pick doesn't devalue the pick in any way.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by penchief

Which is stupid because when the pick is made it is still a second round pick. Not a third, or a fourth, or anything else. And when that pick is on the clock it will have the same value that it normally would.

Delayed gratification is not any less gratifying.

fine ... if it's the same then why don't you trade me all the money your currently have for the same amount + 1 dollar next year.

i mean it's the same value and then you can make a free dollar.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by penchief

There's way too much overanalysis going on here. It's a second round pick. period. If you want to deduct points for waiting I guess that's your preroggative but it in the real world it doesn't make that pick any less valuable when that pick is on the clock.

If another team wants to trade up to that spot they're not going to deduct value because that pick was acquired from another team in a previous season. Waiting to cash in on the pick doesn't devalue the pick in any way.

wrong,wrong,wrong

there is inherent value in owning the item and being able to use the item now as opposed to have to wait a year or two before you can start the process.

[DaWolf]

There could be a couple of overriding factors:
A) You could use that pick to either trade for a veteran/restricted free agent, or to move up in the draft, which would make it more worthwhile to have.

B) Any pick is only as good as the player you pick with it. A second round pick in the hands of Carl is worthless. We'll have to see what a second round pick in the hands of Pioli is going to be worth.

While I agree that it is better to draft a player and have him develop and be useful earlier, not all drafts and offseasons are created equally. With the depth that this upcoming draft class should supposedly have, if used correctly, it can become a valuable player for 2010.

Keep your fingers crossed that Pioli has put together a good scouting department this year, because we're going to need to hit on damn near every pick...

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Laz

wrong,wrong,wrong

there is inherent value in owning the item and being able to use the item now as opposed to have to wait a year or two before you can start the process.

Would you rather have had a 3rd this year over the 2nd next year?