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Old 12-12-2023, 09:08 PM  
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The new Dune 2 trailer may very well be the best trailer for a movie I've ever seen



I really liked the first installment, and the previous trailers for Dune 2 were good, but my jaw hit the floor watching this one....
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Old 11-08-2024, 09:44 PM   #136
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My money's on more woke shit. Not that I'll ever see it.
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Old 11-08-2024, 10:05 PM   #137
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My money's on more woke shit. Not that I'll ever see it.
That's my initial reaction, that this is going to be an attempt at the Bene Gesserit tour de force miniseries with girlboss shit cranked up to 11.

I am a Mark Strong fan, so I'm curious about it, a little bit.
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Old 11-08-2024, 10:26 PM   #138
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That's my initial reaction, that this is going to be an attempt at the Bene Gesserit tour de force miniseries with girlboss shit cranked up to 11.

I am a Mark Strong fan, so I'm curious about it, a little bit.
I dumped HBO or Max or whatever it's called now a long time ago, and I certainly won't add another paid subscription for this bullshit.
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Old 11-11-2024, 04:33 PM   #139
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That's my initial reaction, that this is going to be an attempt at the Bene Gesserit tour de force miniseries with girlboss shit cranked up to 11.

I am a Mark Strong fan, so I'm curious about it, a little bit.
It's gonna be Sisterhood of Dune.

Which is a Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson book and those are pretty much all terrible.

So it's gonna be bad. I mean even the sequel books those guys did were bad. The Prequels worse.

But I'll watch it because...reasons.
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After watching every penguin episode within an hour of dropping.. I lost interest within 30 minutes and went to bed. It was late, and I’ll give it another shot today. But I’m keeping my expectations low
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My money's on more woke shit. Not that I'll ever see it.
What is so woke about Dune? Its a movie series about a book written sixty years ago
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What is so woke about Dune? Its a movie series about a book written sixty years ago
Yeah, if only I had precisely outlined all the reasons why this movie sucks woke microdick in this very thread. Oh wait....
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Yeah, if only I had precisely outlined all the reasons why this movie sucks woke microdick in this very thread. Oh wait....
Are the sand worms trans?
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What is so woke about Dune? Its a movie series about a book written sixty years ago
Having Chani go full Girlboss fundamentally alters the entire Dune universe and making Paul your typical toxic male warmonger fully buries it.

Dune 1 didn't do any of that. It really did a nice job as a faithful adaptation. But to Dune 2 split Paul's internal torment out of the character altogether, put it in Chani and really screwed the whole dynamic up. Especially when, again, the she ditches with his arranged marriage to Irulan (which would've been COMPLETELY acceptable to the Fremen).

It's not hard to see the issues if you're at all familiar with the Dune universe.

Now the answer could be a simple one - inner monologue is difficult if not impossible to translate to a movie from a book. I get that - I could even accept it. But why not put that in Gurney, someone who was always a mentor to Paul and could've provided that foil significantly better. Villeneuve, in a quest for a relatable audience proxy, picked the wrong one.

This idea that a Fremen female, from a deeply religious warrior clan, would simply turn full GirlBoss and hate war or rebel against a political marriage is just silly. And unnecessary. Then again, they gender swapped Liet Kynes as well for some strange reason and suddenly Chani's tie to Liet (and the Fremen ethos writ large) was tenuous and bizarre at best.

Villeneuve wrote Dune 2 for a 'modern' audience and in so doing, undermined the story.
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