Let's Talk About the Eagles

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Looks like we catch a break not having to face Goedert. He's out for the next four weeks with a fractured forearm.

Eagles’ TE Dallas Goedert has a fracture in his forearm and will undergo an MRI on Monday to determine if there is any further damage, as well, per sources. Either way, Goedert is set to miss time and is an injured reserve candidate. pic.twitter.com/rd9Lnw1fsA

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[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I was responding to someone that said we are a balanced team.

If anyone can get it together, it is Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

Have a little faith.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

If anyone can get it together, it is Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

Have a little faith.

There is no bigger Reid or Mahomes fan than me.

But we need 3 guys.

I'm thinking by playoffs it looks like this:

Kelce
Toney
Rice

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

You can't punt punt punt in playoff games.

I'm hoping that Toney is the guy and they are holding him back for when the big games start.

Right now none of our other WR's are making enough plays or taking pressure off Kelce.

Sure you can as long as you have an elite defense. Now I agree that we need someone to take some of the pressure off Kelce, but again we are in the top 50% of offenses in the league right now, not #32.

[chiefzilla1501]

I think Philly on offense in a lot of ways is like ours. They haven’t found their identity yet. It really has been lukewarm. They just find ways to win games by doing just enough on both ends. I don’t think it’s nearly the defensive test we’re making it to be. We can hold them to something manageable for our offense to win. I don’t think we shut them out. Like our offense they can still claw their way to just enough production.

It’s really up to our passing offense to do just enough to win this. It doesn’t have to be 30 points. But we’ve gotta be effective enough for a full 4 quarters

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

There is no bigger Reid or Mahomes fan than me.

But we need 3 guys.

I'm thinking by playoffs it looks like this:

Kelce
Toney
Rice

Maybe. I would have thought so by now. I don't really understand what they're doing with Toney at all. I'm pretty confused. If he's hurt, why are they playing him at all? If he's not, why aren't they utilizing him as an actual WR that they had previously expected to be a primary weapon?

I don't understand.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think Philly on offense in a lot of ways is like ours. They haven’t found their identity yet. It really has been lukewarm. They just find ways to win games by doing just enough on both ends. I don’t think it’s nearly the defensive test we’re making it to be. We can hold them to something manageable for our offense to win. I don’t think we shut them out. Like our offense they can still claw their way to just enough production.

It’s really up to our passing offense to do just enough to win this. It doesn’t have to be 30 points. But we’ve gotta be effective enough for a full 4 quarters

KC isn't shutting out Philly, but they do have a good offense. Thankfully I think KC will be better prepared for them defensively. I don't see Hurts having an all world performance vs this team like they did in the SB. Plus with two weeks for Reid/Mahomes to prepare I think they will be more crisp on offense.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think Philly on offense in a lot of ways is like ours. They haven’t found their identity yet. It really has been lukewarm. They just find ways to win games by doing just enough on both ends. I don’t think it’s nearly the defensive test we’re making it to be. We can hold them to something manageable for our offense to win. I don’t think we shut them out. Like our offense they can still claw their way to just enough production.

It’s really up to our passing offense to do just enough to win this. It doesn’t have to be 30 points. But we’ve gotta be effective enough for a full 4 quarters

I think 24 gets it done, as long as the offense doesn't turn the ball over a bunch.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Chiefs offense now 15th in the NFL

NFL Team Points per Play

So no, we are not a balanced team. Our offense is no longer elite.
1 Miami 0.515 0.346 0.241 0.662 0.383 0.397
2 San Francisco 0.452 0.311 0.304 0.488 0.412 0.424
3 Buffalo 0.425 0.354 0.327 0.482 0.377 0.426
4 Dallas 0.419 0.443 0.329 0.516 0.352 0.410
5 Baltimore 0.411 0.558 0.493 0.458 0.373 0.328
6 Philadelphia 0.408 0.513 0.475 0.472 0.359 0.435
7 Indianapolis 0.391 0.482 0.474 0.410 0.368 0.262
8 LA Chargers 0.382 0.342 0.462 0.396 0.363 0.344
9 Denver 0.380 0.302 0.369 0.380 0.378 0.266
10 Seattle 0.368 0.294 0.064 0.409 0.328 0.388
11 Houston 0.365 0.404 0.629 0.404 0.322 0.285
12 Jacksonville 0.363 0.481 0.308 0.323 0.387 0.379
13 Detroit 0.362 0.234 0.321 0.442 0.285 0.415
14 Minnesota 0.361 0.370 0.425 0.302 0.416 0.380
15 Kansas City 0.360 0.345 0.375 0.410 0.316 0.456
16 Green Bay 0.334 0.246 0.294 0.268 0.409 0.352
17 Chicago 0.332 0.306 0.266 0.332 0.331 0.328
18 Washington 0.326 0.272 0.260 0.295 0.350

Originally Posted by tredadda

And tied for second in W/L record. What’s your point?

I think its perfectly fair to consider it... off putting

But it also shows just how good the defense has been, they've clearly been pulling their weight and then some to get us the record we currently hold

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Maybe. I would have thought so by now. I don't really understand what they're doing with Toney at all. I'm pretty confused. If he's hurt, why are they playing him at all? If he's not, why aren't they utilizing him as an actual WR that they had previously expected to be a primary weapon?

I don't understand.

I think he's being kept in bubble wrap till the playoffs.

Because talent wise there is zero reason ever to draw up plays getting Skyy Moore open and not Toney.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think 24 gets it done, as long as the offense doesn't turn the ball over a bunch.

The way I see it we have an offense that’s been inconsistent. But the eagles have a hole in their pass defense (although outstanding vs the run).

Eagles have inconsistency with their offense and they’re excellent running the ball, but our defense is solid vs the pass or run. The defense will get the job done. The window is right there for our offense to do just enough and I think mistake free football regardless of our inconsistencies is enough to get the job done

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

I think its perfectly fair to consider it... off putting

But it also shows just how good the defense has been, they've clearly been pulling their weight and then some to get us the record we currently hold

But it also shows how spoiled that we as fans have been. KC's offense is still #15, but because it's not #1-#3 we think it's horrid. Can they be better? Sure. If they start cleaning up a lot of mental errors they will improve. We have a SB caliber defense and it's been a very long time since we have been able to say that.

Look at Cincinnati. They haven't won 3 out of 4 against KC because they won shootouts. Their defense held an explosive KC in check while doing just enough on offense to win. KC might have to ride that model this year. That's exactly the type of win we got yesterday over Miami.

I hope the offense turns the corner and believe they will with Andy/Pat, but I am prepared for it to not happen and KC will have to win ugly.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by tredadda

But it also shows how spoiled that we as fans have been. KC's offense is still #15, but because it's not #1-#3 we think it's horrid. Can they be better? Sure. If they start cleaning up a lot of mental errors they will improve. We have a SB caliber defense and it's been a very long time since we have been able to say that.

Look at Cincinnati. They haven't won 3 out of 4 against KC because they won shootouts. Their defense held an explosive KC in check while doing just enough on offense to win. KC might have to ride that model this year. That's exactly the type of win we got yesterday over Miami.

I hope the offense turns the corner and believe they will with Andy/Pat, but I am prepared for it to not happen and KC will have to win ugly.

A team with the best QB (ever, IMO) the best play caller, and the best TE should not be 15th EVER.

That means something went wrong.

I do think we will be better but we need to play like a top 5 offense in the playoffs to win it all. That's just how the league works now.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Maybe. I would have thought so by now. I don't really understand what they're doing with Toney at all. I'm pretty confused. If he's hurt, why are they playing him at all? If he's not, why aren't they utilizing him as an actual WR that they had previously expected to be a primary weapon?

I don't understand.

Win games and keep players healthy is what I say.

Toney runs like a maniac with the ball, if he is going to take on 3-4 tackles on every touch, limit his touches to keep him healthy and keep his stats low so he might stay without having to exercise fifth year option. Fifth year option for a WR will be a big number.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by tredadda

But it also shows how spoiled that we as fans have been. KC's offense is still #15, but because it's not #1-#3 we think it's horrid. Can they be better? Sure. If they start cleaning up a lot of mental errors they will improve. We have a SB caliber defense and it's been a very long time since we have been able to say that.

Look at Cincinnati. They haven't won 3 out of 4 against KC because they won shootouts. Their defense held an explosive KC in check while doing just enough on offense to win. KC might have to ride that model this year. That's exactly the type of win we got yesterday over Miami.

I hope the offense turns the corner and believe they will with Andy/Pat, but I am prepared for it to not happen and KC will have to win ugly.

Well sure, but you can't act all surprised when people get a lil anxious going from year after year of top 3... to merely average on offense

What they're missing is, RELAX this defense is capable of picking up the slack until we find something that works

But I don't hate some of the offense gloomers, they make some good points too... yeah it DOES suck when we finally have to deal with our beautiful and finely tuned machine start sputtering

[fadeaway]

On the 4th and 1 tush push…

I made be talking out my ass but could you have success if you tried your luck and timed it perfectly beating the cadence?

We didn’t stop it once last year, no team has had success this year. Similar to Reid’s perfect timing field goal block, could you take the risk and try to get a rusher through the line?

If you get called offsides or NZI all that happens is you lose 5 yards?