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Old 02-03-2023, 11:28 PM  
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:48 AM   #136
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Yup. It cant be emphasized enough how much of our success is due to the brilliance of our coaching and mahomes. We paid way less for our receivers. And spags has shown he can coach up a ton of young talent.

We’ve proven we can do more with less. The bengals still haven’t proven they can do more with more.
And let's not forget Brett ****ing Veach, who has been a ****ing cheat code these last couple of drafts.
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Old 02-05-2023, 09:16 AM   #137
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for sure. Also, why a 1st? We didn't even get a first for Reek. But a team like the Giants would do that. Big target for their shitty QB.
We got a 1st and much more?
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Old 02-05-2023, 09:35 AM   #138
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Old 02-05-2023, 09:56 AM   #139
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Mahomes scoffs at bitches needing a super star receiver. It helps, sure, but give my guy a defense, and let’s roll.
Kelce is his superstar receiver.
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Old 02-05-2023, 10:12 AM   #140
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Higgins has yet to preform as a true #1 either. Chase gets the toughest assignments each week and the double teams. Higgins benefits off that. Not saying he's a bum but he needs to prove it.

Tyreek had proven to be a legit #1 WR week after week, year after year. They're not in the same boat. Bengals will still get a first for him, but that's it no extras on top of it like we got.
I agree with your thoughts on the draft compensation. No doubt a good portion of teams sees him as a capable #1 WR in their offense. He has every tool to be just that. Someone could easily trade a 1 for him and pay him. I don't see many WRs in this draft with his physical tools. However, he didn't benefit from Chase as a rookie when he put up 900 yards, though Tyler Boyd took some pressure off of him. Like you though, I don't see a team paying more than a #1. They didn't do it for AJ Brown.

As for those thinking he won't get paid handsomely, my only issue with this thought is this:

Chris Godwin got 20m per as the #2 to Mike Evans.
Keenan Allen and Mike Williams both got 20m per, argue over the #2.
Lockett is at 17.5m per while Metcalf just got 24m per, and we can argue over the #2 there
Christian Kirk got 18 per and was never the #1.

IMO Higgins is getting over 20m whether it's from Cincy or someone else.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:01 AM   #141
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:13 AM   #142
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Higgins will absolutely walk. Cincy is brain dead if they don’t get something in return. Strike while the iron is hot.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:38 AM   #143
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Emotions were high. They need him. They'll work it out.
Yup. It's entirely a different situation with Diggs and Buffalo, they need him as they don't have as much. Cincy is stocked full of options. They trade Higgins, plug in Boyd and then sign and draft cheaper replacements. The Bills can't do that, especially with Josh Allen being so sporadic.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:47 AM   #144
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Yup. It cant be emphasized enough how much of our success is due to the brilliance of our coaching and mahomes. We paid way less for our receivers. And spags has shown he can coach up a ton of young talent.

We’ve proven we can do more with less. The bengals still haven’t proven they can do more with more.
Also to Veach. I doubt any other GM in the league hits in as many late round picks as he does. A 7th round pick used to be pretty meh, but Veach can turn that into a starter, and sometimes a damn good one. I don’t follow Cincy enough to know how they draft, and specifically in the latter rounds. But I’d imagine they’re not nearly as good as Veach is at it. And that also goes back to our coaching staff’s ability to coach up the talent they bring in via draft. Now if Skyy takes a big step this offseason, I’ll feel a lot better about Veach and drafting receivers!
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Old 02-05-2023, 01:13 PM   #145
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Mahomes scoffs at bitches needing a super star receiver. It helps, sure, but give my guy a defense, and let’s roll.
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Kelce is his superstar receiver.
The Bengals fan is right. Kelce has the 3rd most receiving yards over the last 5 years. Only behind Adams and Hill.
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Old 02-05-2023, 01:28 PM   #146
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If Tyreek didn't want an outrageous bag. The Chiefs wouldn't be in their 3rd Super Bowl in 4 years. It also took Veatch to get the draft picks and FAs. Then for Mahomes to have an MVP season. It started with draft picks and freed up cap space from the Hill trade.

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Ha. Those things are not mutually exclusive. We would have been unstoppable with Tyreek. The issue last year is we had no WR depth and no #2 or real #3. We would absolutely be better with Tyreek. Still glad now they didn't go that route as its law of diminishing returns and he's just too expensive.
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Old 02-05-2023, 02:02 PM   #147
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The Bengals fan is right. Kelce has the 3rd most receiving yards over the last 5 years. Only behind Adams and Hill.
Yes, and we/KC/Mahomes will miss him when he's gone.

Hopefully Vurt Beach can work some magic.

But even without Kelce, Mahomes will still Mahomes.

Let's see about Joe Cool.
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Ha. Those things are not mutually exclusive. We would have been unstoppable with Tyreek. The issue last year is we had no WR depth and no #2 or real #3. We would absolutely be better with Tyreek. Still glad now they didn't go that route as its law of diminishing returns and he's just too expensive.
That defense I would not want to see. With Hill still here
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Also to Veach. I doubt any other GM in the league hits in as many late round picks as he does. A 7th round pick used to be pretty meh, but Veach can turn that into a starter, and sometimes a damn good one. I don’t follow Cincy enough to know how they draft, and specifically in the latter rounds. But I’d imagine they’re not nearly as good as Veach is at it. And that also goes back to our coaching staff’s ability to coach up the talent they bring in via draft. Now if Skyy takes a big step this offseason, I’ll feel a lot better about Veach and drafting receivers!
Since Zac has been here, no starters after the 4th round (Volson was a 4th rnd, starting LG). Treyveon Williams and Chris Evans were both 6th rd and they should get more snaps next year when Mixon is gone. Markus Bailey (7th) and Davis-Gaither (4th) get snaps and could be fighting to take Germaine Pratt's spot if he leaves. Cam Sample (4th) is a solid rotational guy. Ossai, Logan Wilson and Pratt were all 3rd rounders.

They def need to be better than zero hits after the 4th round.
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Yes, and we/KC/Mahomes will miss him when he's gone.

Hopefully Vurt Beach can work some magic.

But even without Kelce, Mahomes will still Mahomes.

Let's see about Joe Cool.
As long as they keep him protected, Mahomes will be fine with whoever is out there. Joe needs that kind of protection for when the average guys start getting more snaps.
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