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Old 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM  
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Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling

I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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It damn sure wasn't Nagy calling a tackle eligible strike to Caliendo, lol
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Not a single screen pass that I remember or a reverse

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Still believe this… we gotta learn how to throw to our WRs. If by season end we just don’t trust them, ok. We can rely on the formula Tampa has used. But mahomes is too good to be this bad. Our top concern right now is getting mahomes right. We’ve gotta get him better at the deep ball and comfortable throwing contested throws to Deandre. If we do that, then if (hopefully “when”) Hollywood comes back we’ll be in a terrific spot to exploit. We can use these tools if we need to but right now I think we have different priorities

Today also felt like a game where we finally saw why we need Pacheco. KHunt will be tremendous in a role, Pacheco opens our offense up in a lot of different ways
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Yeah that's cope IMO. There's absolutely no advantage to doing that and it just simply makes no sense to do it.

People act like the years when the chiefs lit it up in the regular season, they didn't also light it up in the playoffs. The two are not mutually exclusive
Teams pretty much go all out in the regular season. Find out what works, find out what doesn’t, then make playoff adjustments

Reid always has new plays for the playoffs, but not enough to turn us into the 2018 Chiefs. Also this team isn’t talented enough to purposefully “play with its food”
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First ****ing play of the game was a reverse.

Noah Gray caught a TE screen.

JuJu caught a bubble screen down by the goal line.

JFC guys
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Old Yesterday, 08:59 PM   #411
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Nagy play calling sucks

Tackles suck and there's no solution for it. This gonna be a problem in Jan.

Mahomes sucks. 9-1 record has hid his shit play this season. Chiefs have been winning in spite of him.

Kareem Hunt looks slow.

Gray coming into his own but Kelce did another disappearing act.

This is the first time defense got pummeled and offense kept stalling and stalling and stalling.

Hopefully this L helps.
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You mean successful screen? Mahomes has thrown so many screens to the dirt this year because they were dead from the start.
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Old Yesterday, 10:49 PM   #413
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Seven points in the second half was never going to win this game.

As always, we don't know which specific calls were made by Nagy and which by Reid.
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I still see Reid with the Menu in his hand.
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I think we all know Reid was going to keep a lot of plays in his back pocket knowing we are going to see these guys again when it matters.
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I think we all know Reid was going to keep a lot of plays in his back pocket knowing we are going to see these guys again when it matters.
It mattered last night, now we have a tie breaker issue with Buffalo.
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So EB was a brilliant game planner?
I think he was much tougher on the players to know all the little details. Offense was much better when he was here though.
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I think he was much tougher on the players to know all the little details. Offense was much better when he was here though.
Mahomes even said it himself.

"I’m not going to say I or we relaxed, but at the same time I feel like we were just coming away with these wins at the end of the game. I think it’s going to spark us to have more urgency, especially at the start of football games, especially with the offense, and that comes from me and turning the ball over on the first drive. It’s something you can’t do in big games like this."
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I know it won't happen but I really hope they go in a new direction once Andy retires. They were smart when they traded Hill to reinvent themselves instead of try to get a Hill replacement and keep things how they were. Same deal with HC. Trying to get an Andy Reid replacement is impossible. Hopefully Nagy goes to NY or somewhere else and in a few years when Reid hangs it up, the Chiefs look to figure out what's next instead of trying to hold on to what's been.
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