Chiefs A level Headed Review Week 11 2024 - Page 6

DenverChief · Yesterday, 06:39 PM

First - I am writing this without having watched - only listened to half of the 2nd quarter and half of the 3rd. Had to go on an airport run.

Second - we were going to lose at some point, we were fortunate our first loss wasn't last week, yes we made a play at the end of the game but the odds of a FG block ar astronomical. Unfortunate that the first loss comes against Buffalo but we still hold a one game lead against them for the #1 Seed. Buffalo still has to play the 49ers and the Lions of which could be at least one loss. Our schedule is much easier as far as opponents I am concerned with only Denver and the Steelers. I would rather lose to Buffalo now than in the playoffs.

The INT by Pat was just horrible. I get the pocket was collapsing around him but he needs to get better about air mailing passes. Have seen too many of those in the past couple of weeks. Glad to see the rest of the game wasn't

Worthy was the entire first scoring drive (except the Mike Caliendo for 5 yards

). It was almost as if the Chiefs decided to showcase the WR Buffalo traded to them. What a great drive for Worthy 4 receptions for 61 yards and a TD.

Noah Gray with his first multi touchdown game. Hendershot with another catch. I feel like he has made more of a difference with this offense than Wiley has.

The Defense seems to want to blitz Allen from the right side forcing him to his right, which is a huge mistake. Allen can make all the throws rolling to his right. Gotta find the way to pressure him and force him to the left.

N. Johnson got picked on quite a bit today but he managed to have a decent game despite this. The more experience he gets the better we will be as we approach the playoffs. Tied for team lead in tackles with 8 (Connor).

Connor had a great game got the timely INT on 4th down to give the ball back to the O which led to our second score. The Defense isn't getting home with 4 rushers. Hoping Omenihu is going to make more of a difference when he comes back.

Kinda felt like the Allen TD was a "let him score" situation so Pat could get the ball back and we could try again for the win with an onside kick or some other miracle play.

Juju really wasn't the impact I was hoping he would be coming back into the mix with Dhop and Kelce. Hoping Pacheco and Hunt can make us deadly in the running game. Worthy seemed to disappear after that first scoring drive. Hunt was running the ball well but for some reason we weren't using him during the two offensive series it was 16-14

First game in a long time where we lost the TOP 34:03/25:57 - still lost the TO battle 2/1

Didn't get a good look at the OL but they seemed to have done better as the game went on. The first Q was pretty shaky.

scho63 · Yesterday, 11:27 PM

That catch out of bounds AGAIN by Worthy is becoming a problem. Poor field awareness.

He had a much better game and made a hell of a catch deep on the right where he took a huge hit and held onto the ball. I was impressed.

Delayed blitzes against Allen are hard to to pulloff. He did pretty well.

Chris Jones and Kelce were MIA.

Our secondary had some issues.

Our O-line just a hot mess.

Mahomes is scary this year and not in a good way.

Would be nice to be undefeated but we all knew it was not gonna happen.

I think we had no injuries today so that is the positive.

Noah Gray played well. So did Chenal. Cook has a tough game.

Next week we need to tee off on the Panthers.

DenverChief · Yesterday, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

17 yard run is the longest by a RB this season. Need juice at RB badly.

Draft one of the studs from this upcoming class

Is RB deep this year?

RunKC · Yesterday, 11:36 PM

Don’t look now but Chris Jones has only 3 sacks. Projected to have fewest sacks since his rookie year.

Yikes

DenverChief · Yesterday, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Wasn't on the defense. BUF had 10 drives, scored on 5 of them. That's not great, but it's also not bad.

Our offense had 9 drives tonight. Managed just 3 scores. Just one score in 4 drives in the second half.

I've been saying it for awhile now, and I love great defense, but in today's NFL, you need to score points on offense to win big games. We've leaned on the defense and STs, and fortunate calls by the refs, and watched our offensive efficiency slowly decline, until the last few weeks when we needed poor coaching decisions by the opposing team to get Ws.

Well, today we finally scraped the bottom of that barrel. If we score 33% of the time, we're going to get beat by most decent teams, plain and simple.

I mean, obviously no one intended for the Chiefs to go into this season without Rice and Hollywood, or lose Pacheco to injury, but that's what happened, and just like last season, we're a popgun offense. Which is fine if they're efficient, like say scoring around 45%+ of drives. But that's not where we are. And for some reason we traded for one of the best possession WRs since Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald, and we don't target him more than 3-5 times a game. We'd rather run screens to Perine, or waste targets on Watson and Hendershot.

Well, it came back to bite us finally. Fortunately, not big deal, just a regular season game, and I have little doubt we'll have the 1- or 2-seed regardless. But then we'll be playing against teams that can actually play offense and defense.

We need to get back to players over plays. We just can't afford to waste targets on PS players that may or may not execute in the playoffs.

I’m pretty sure they were rushing 3 and dropping everyone else into coverage. That’s a pretty crowded downfield. To your point about being down 9 shouldn’t have been in “that” position (down two scores) makes it easier to defend imo.

DenverChief · Yesterday, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Don’t look now but Chris Jones has only 3 sacks. Projected to have fewest sacks since his rookie year.

Yikes

Eh- the Defense as a whole has 19. Omenihu had 7 in just over half a season last year. That’s a big hole. I think we will be okay with Omenihu coming back.

Megatron96 · Yesterday, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I’m pretty sure they were rushing 3 and dropping everyone else into coverage. That’s a pretty crowded downfield. To your point about being down 9 shouldn’t have been in “that” position (down two scores) makes it easier to defend imo.

Pretty sure they wren't rushing 3 and dropping 8 on every series.

And we were down 9 because our offense only scored 3 times all game. And scoring efficiency has been a problem for awhile now. And I mean for a couple seasons.

And if we just go back to a couple three weeks ago, our defense allowed 17 pts to TB in the 2nd half. And if Bowles had any nuts, he goes for two and they probably win. But he doesn't, so they don't, and everyone congratulates the team for winning another game, when in reality, TB/Bowles handed it to us instead of taking it from us.

Then last week, our offense managed just two FGs in the 2nd half and it takes an improbable ST play to steal a W from DEN. And you know how many times DHop was targeted in the 2nd half of that game? ONCE.

And tonight zero times on our last drive. When we needed our best players out there making plays, we targeted Perine 3 times and JWat once before Pat threw the INT. And even that throw didn't make much sense to me, because Travis looked bracketed to me. The A-22 may say different, in which case I'll apologize, but as of right now, he didn't look open to me.

I mean, it is what it is. And more than likely it will get sorted out before the playoffs. I'm 99% certain it will. But I'm not going to pretend the offense is functioning well, or that our scant offensive resources are currently being used as efficiently as possible, because I just don't believe that.

Ymmv.

Megatron96 · Yesterday, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Eh- the Defense as a whole has 19. Omenihu had 7 in just over half a season last year. That’s a big hole. I think we will be okay with Omenihu coming back.

Yeah, I'm hopeful Omenihu will help the DL significantly as well. Might take a couple weeks for him to get back into the flow, but he'll help out alot once he does.

**BossChief** · Today, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Don’t look now but Chris Jones has only 3 sacks. Projected to have fewest sacks since his rookie year.

Yikes

Dude, he will probably be a finalist for DPOTY…if not the winner.

He had a below average game for his standards…but let’s keep it all in perspective.

We just won 15 games in a row, including the Super Bowl.

WBF.

Worthy will get more involved. Hollywood will make an impact. Omenihu will force teams to not double CJ95 all game. Johnson and Williams will continue to improve week to week.

The only thing that concerns me is LT. Gotta figure that out.

JPH83 · Today, 01:15 AM

We didn't deserve to win but I'm really not bothered about the loss, it felt a tall order with the injuries and in their backyard.

There's only a couple of gripes I have and they feel pretty fixable. The OTs are ass and it's frustrating seeing how hard they make longer developing plays. Like others I'd like to see us run it more and/or use more creative play calling to slow the rush down, as our entire OL has been off at times. But if we meet them again, I kinda think we will. If we don't, then yeah, time to be annoyed. I'm not 100% convinced Donovan Smith improves things this late in the season, but the LT issue is not going away.

The other is our DL. It's been good against the run but anaemic when it comes to pass rushing. Bills were the first team that Spags couldn't use blitzes to mask this difficiency. After the injury I don't think we can count on Omenihu to change things drastically, we're just going to need to get a lot more from Karlaftis, Danna and the rest. They're not doing enough, at all. LBs in coverage remain not very good, but the lack of a 4 man rush feels the bigger issue.

Mahomes...hasn't been good. He's nowhere near the level he's reached in the past, but then again we've been here before and the playoffs have been different.

Other than that, it was great to see Worthy on that drive. Still a mixed bag but positive to see some semblance of a connection with Mahomes.

MahomesMagic · Today, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

The offensive game plan just convinces me even more they use every regular season game as preseason... Worthy with all the touches on one possession. Don't think Kelce even had a target(?) in the first half, down by 9 and the Chiefs look like their usual postseason-selves.

I'm sure Mahomes is also uncomfortable because of LT issues, but then it's suddenly not an issue either.

They just aren't going to the same well over and over and over for the sake of scoring 40... there's purpose beyond what we want to see.

Defense was odd since the Bills were terrible on first and second downs most of the game... 3rd and long over and over and over. Of course, Allen is going to be pretty decent at those anyway, but just a very strange feeling overall from the defense (not that any of it matters much outside of today's game).

Yeah, there is no way this was our A plan for attacking Buffalo.

In a must have game Kelce would be peppered with targets in the middle of the field.

Buffalo's defensive had the intermediate middle of the field open the whole game and we refused to send weapons there.

No misdirection as Buffalo D was just running mindlessly 100 MPH as they always do towards the first motion of the ball carrier.

No screens, No RPO's. Mcdermott defense can't stop an RPO, etc

BlackHelicopters · Today, 01:35 AM

Our secondary was filled with holes.

duncan_idaho · Today, 06:43 AM

I’m not going to go gloom-and-doom or Pollyanna.

There are some issues with this team. It also is more than good enough to overcome them, and we’ve seen it do just that.

Season is now set up to be more dramatic than it could have been with a win yesterday, but I don’t think that’s the worst thing in the world.

Mahomes: Needs to play better

Offensive line: Needs to play better (I think getting Pacheco back will help here, making it easier to lean on the run game and eliminating Carson Steele from any 3rd down back snaps).

Defensive line: complementary guys need to complement. Karlaftis needs to win more. Again, Omenihu offers potential help here.

Gameplan: Needs to lean more into Hopkins.

stevieray · Today, 07:10 AM

Put themselves in a hole with points off the INT. Played uphill the rest of the game.

Holding penalty that negated the 45 yd pass to Worthy, and the subsequent DPI on third and nine.

That was the ball game.

Sometimes it truly comes down to a couple of plays in critical situations.

**BigRedChief** · Today, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Andy wasn’t using a game that would have given the Chiefs with a win, essentially a four game lead for the AFC #1 seed as a “preseason game”.

The stupidity.

That may be true. We didn't see Andy's best plays or anything new besides a pass to an OL I'd forgot was even on the roster.

I thought for sure having a 3 game lead for HFA was important to Andy. Evidently not important enough to bring the "A" game.

**BigRedChief** · Today, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not going to go gloom-and-doom or Pollyanna.

There are some issues with this team. It also is more than good enough to overcome them, and we’ve seen it do just that.

Season is now set up to be more dramatic than it could have been with a win yesterday, but I don’t think that’s the worst thing in the world.

Mahomes: Needs to play better

Offensive line: Needs to play better (I think getting Pacheco back will help here, making it easier to lean on the run game and eliminating Carson Steele from any 3rd down back snaps).

Defensive line: complementary guys need to complement. Karlaftis needs to win more. Again, Omenihu offers potential help here.

Gameplan: Needs to lean more into Hopkins.

also get Browns shoulder up to speed at least 2 games before the playoffs.

Yesterday, 06:39 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $4152617	A level Headed Review Week 11 2024 First - I am writing this without having watched - only listened to half of the 2nd quarter and half of the 3rd. Had to go on an airport run. Second - we were going to lose at some point, we were fortunate our first loss wasn't last week, yes we made a play at the end of the game but the odds of a FG block ar astronomical. Unfortunate that the first loss comes against Buffalo but we still hold a one game lead against them for the #1 Seed. Buffalo still has to play the 49ers and the Lions of which could be at least one loss. Our schedule is much easier as far as opponents I am concerned with only Denver and the Steelers. I would rather lose to Buffalo now than in the playoffs. The INT by Pat was just horrible. I get the pocket was collapsing around him but he needs to get better about air mailing passes. Have seen too many of those in the past couple of weeks. Glad to see the rest of the game wasn't Worthy was the entire first scoring drive (except the Mike Caliendo for 5 yards ). It was almost as if the Chiefs decided to showcase the WR Buffalo traded to them. What a great drive for Worthy 4 receptions for 61 yards and a TD. Noah Gray with his first multi touchdown game. Hendershot with another catch. I feel like he has made more of a difference with this offense than Wiley has. The Defense seems to want to blitz Allen from the right side forcing him to his right, which is a huge mistake. Allen can make all the throws rolling to his right. Gotta find the way to pressure him and force him to the left. N. Johnson got picked on quite a bit today but he managed to have a decent game despite this. The more experience he gets the better we will be as we approach the playoffs. Tied for team lead in tackles with 8 (Connor). Connor had a great game got the timely INT on 4th down to give the ball back to the O which led to our second score. The Defense isn't getting home with 4 rushers. Hoping Omenihu is going to make more of a difference when he comes back. Kinda felt like the Allen TD was a "let him score" situation so Pat could get the ball back and we could try again for the win with an onside kick or some other miracle play. Juju really wasn't the impact I was hoping he would be coming back into the mix with Dhop and Kelce. Hoping Pacheco and Hunt can make us deadly in the running game. Worthy seemed to disappear after that first scoring drive. Hunt was running the ball well but for some reason we weren't using him during the two offensive series it was 16-14 First game in a long time where we lost the TOP 34:03/25:57 - still lost the TO battle 2/1 Didn't get a good look at the OL but they seemed to have done better as the game went on. The first Q was pretty shaky.
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $731110	That catch out of bounds AGAIN by Worthy is becoming a problem. Poor field awareness. He had a much better game and made a hell of a catch deep on the right where he took a huge hit and held onto the ball. I was impressed. Delayed blitzes against Allen are hard to to pulloff. He did pretty well. Chris Jones and Kelce were MIA. Our secondary had some issues. Our O-line just a hot mess. Mahomes is scary this year and not in a good way. Would be nice to be undefeated but we all knew it was not gonna happen. I think we had no injuries today so that is the positive. Noah Gray played well. So did Chenal. Cook has a tough game. Next week we need to tee off on the Panthers. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $990400	We didn't deserve to win but I'm really not bothered about the loss, it felt a tall order with the injuries and in their backyard. There's only a couple of gripes I have and they feel pretty fixable. The OTs are ass and it's frustrating seeing how hard they make longer developing plays. Like others I'd like to see us run it more and/or use more creative play calling to slow the rush down, as our entire OL has been off at times. But if we meet them again, I kinda think we will. If we don't, then yeah, time to be annoyed. I'm not 100% convinced Donovan Smith improves things this late in the season, but the LT issue is not going away. The other is our DL. It's been good against the run but anaemic when it comes to pass rushing. Bills were the first team that Spags couldn't use blitzes to mask this difficiency. After the injury I don't think we can count on Omenihu to change things drastically, we're just going to need to get a lot more from Karlaftis, Danna and the rest. They're not doing enough, at all. LBs in coverage remain not very good, but the lack of a 4 man rush feels the bigger issue. Mahomes...hasn't been good. He's nowhere near the level he's reached in the past, but then again we've been here before and the playoffs have been different. Other than that, it was great to see Worthy on that drive. Still a mixed bag but positive to see some semblance of a connection with Mahomes.
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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-259692	I’m not going to go gloom-and-doom or Pollyanna. There are some issues with this team. It also is more than good enough to overcome them, and we’ve seen it do just that. Season is now set up to be more dramatic than it could have been with a win yesterday, but I don’t think that’s the worst thing in the world. Mahomes: Needs to play better Offensive line: Needs to play better (I think getting Pacheco back will help here, making it easier to lean on the run game and eliminating Carson Steele from any 3rd down back snaps). Defensive line: complementary guys need to complement. Karlaftis needs to win more. Again, Omenihu offers potential help here. Gameplan: Needs to lean more into Hopkins. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $545273	Put themselves in a hole with points off the INT. Played uphill the rest of the game. Holding penalty that negated the 45 yd pass to Worthy, and the subsequent DPI on third and nine. That was the ball game. Sometimes it truly comes down to a couple of plays in critical situations.
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