Chiefs Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling - Page 23

**Bowser** · 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM

I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.

Sassy Squatch · Today, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Doug would be a huge downgrade tbh.

It’s unbelievable that Doug has a good QB like Lawrence and has made him worse and worse every year despite building up the roster.

Kafka doesn’t look any better either and he’s had Slayton, Nabers and Saquon in his time there.

Nagy made Trubisky and Fields look respectable despite neither being starting QB’s in this league. Pretty much says it all

Pederson won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Don't know what you're talking about about in regards to Fields either, looked completely awful under Nagy.

RunKC · Today, 11:02 AM

Nobody cares what Doug did in a month with Foles. Congrats?

The guy has been an abomination in Jacksonville. He’s got an above average talent at QB and has stocked that roster with BTJ, Ettiene, Davis, Kirk and Engram.

It is unbelievable how Doug has ****ed that kid up despite good surrounding talent. He isn’t good.

Idk how anyone can watch what he’s doing in Jacksonville and think he would add anything of value to this franchise.

Sassy Squatch · Today, 11:19 AM

Trevor Lawrence has 2,004 yards, 11 Touchdowns, and 6 Interceptions.

Pat Mahomes has 2,208 yards, 12 Touchdowns, and 9 Interceptions.

It is unbelievable how Nagy has ****ed that kid up despite good surrounding talent. He isn’t good.

Idk how anyone can watch what he’s doing in Kansas City and think he would add anything of value to any franchise.

saltydd5 · Today, 11:20 AM

I thought it was interesting that when EB left and they promoted Nagy back to OC, WR coach Greg Lewis left for the Ravens. This was after we won the SB that year. I have the feeling he got pissed that he didn't get the chance at OC. If you look at the WR position during his years as WR coach, we were a lot better. I remember the press asking Andy why he left, and he really didn't answer. I would bring him back as OC. So far I haven't been impressed with what Connor Embree has done with our WR's.

Bl00dyBizkitz · Today, 11:20 AM

This thread outta be fun.

RunKC · Today, 11:28 AM

Yeah I’m sure the Chiefs losing their WR1, WR2, WR3 for a month and RB1 having to completely remake their weapons isn’t affecting the QB in any way.

Give Mahomes the Jags weapons and he’s putting up big numbers

Rainbarrel · Today, 11:30 AM

Hopkins with Mason Rudolph as his QB got -2 yards against the Bills in week 7. He may have asked for a little redemption

Sassy Squatch · Today, 11:34 AM

Wasn't a noticable difference in the offense before and after Rice went down with injury.

4 games before and including the Rice injury: 6 TDs, 6 INTs, 903 yards.

5 games after the Rice injury: 6 TDs, 5 INTs, 1304 yards.

Sassy Squatch · Today, 11:36 AM

WR3 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

JuJu has 9 receptions on the year. 7 of those came in one game.

saltydd5 · Today, 11:37 AM

also got to remember Veach and Nagy played college ball together. Andy seems to love him. I hope jets call him!

Sassy Squatch · Today, 11:38 AM

You'd really have us believing that Kelce, Hunt, Hopkins, and Worthy is a worse group than Engram, Etienne, Davis, and Thomas Jr?

Both QBs lost their #1 WR for the year, so that doesn't really hold much water either.

RunKC · Today, 11:43 AM

I can’t figure out why Mahomes is not playing well this year. I mean Kingsley, Steele, Watson and Hardman are playing meaningful starting snaps through at least 3 games a piece, his TE is 35 and Rashee Rice still leads the WR’s in yards despite not playing since week 4.

How interesting that since acquiring Hopkins, Mahomes has a 6/1 TD/INT ratio with over 800 yards passing and would be on pace for 4,600+ yards and 34 TD’s.

Almost like talent matters

saltydd5 · Today, 11:43 AM

get these tackles fixed and these WR's start kicking ass!

**ChiefGator** · Today, 11:43 AM

Pederson as OC under Reid was good. As a HC, he may stink.

Sassy Squatch · Today, 11:50 AM

Extrapolate Lawrence's stats out to a full season and he's sitting at 3754 yards, 20 TDs, and 12 INTs.

2023 Lawrence had 4016 yards, 21 TDs, and 14 INTs.

2023 Mahomes had 4183 yards, 27 TDs, and 14 INTs.

Matt Nagy ****ing sucks LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $1581616	Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place. Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off. Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason? Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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Today, 11:02 AM	#332
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $249611	Nobody cares what Doug did in a month with Foles. Congrats? The guy has been an abomination in Jacksonville. He’s got an above average talent at QB and has stocked that roster with BTJ, Ettiene, Davis, Kirk and Engram. It is unbelievable how Doug has **ed that kid up despite good surrounding talent. He isn’t good. Idk how anyone can watch what he’s doing in Jacksonville and think he would add anything of value to this franchise. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley**
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Today, 11:19 AM	#333
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $439655	Trevor Lawrence has 2,004 yards, 11 Touchdowns, and 6 Interceptions. Pat Mahomes has 2,208 yards, 12 Touchdowns, and 9 Interceptions. It is unbelievable how Nagy has ****ed that kid up despite good surrounding talent. He isn’t good. Idk how anyone can watch what he’s doing in Kansas City and think he would add anything of value to any franchise.
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Today, 11:20 AM	#334
saltydd5 Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $9485400	I thought it was interesting that when EB left and they promoted Nagy back to OC, WR coach Greg Lewis left for the Ravens. This was after we won the SB that year. I have the feeling he got pissed that he didn't get the chance at OC. If you look at the WR position during his years as WR coach, we were a lot better. I remember the press asking Andy why he left, and he really didn't answer. I would bring him back as OC. So far I haven't been impressed with what Connor Embree has done with our WR's.
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Today, 11:20 AM	#335
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Today, 11:28 AM	#336
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $249611	Yeah I’m sure the Chiefs losing their WR1, WR2, WR3 for a month and RB1 having to completely remake their weapons isn’t affecting the QB in any way. Give Mahomes the Jags weapons and he’s putting up big numbers __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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Today, 11:30 AM	#337
Rainbarrel MVP Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $990400	Hopkins with Mason Rudolph as his QB got -2 yards against the Bills in week 7. He may have asked for a little redemption
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Today, 11:34 AM	#338
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $439655	Wasn't a noticable difference in the offense before and after Rice went down with injury. 4 games before and including the Rice injury: 6 TDs, 6 INTs, 903 yards. 5 games after the Rice injury: 6 TDs, 5 INTs, 1304 yards.
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Today, 11:36 AM	#339
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $439655	WR3 LOLOLOLOLOLOL JuJu has 9 receptions on the year. 7 of those came in one game.
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Today, 11:37 AM	#340
saltydd5 Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $9485400	also got to remember Veach and Nagy played college ball together. Andy seems to love him. I hope jets call him!
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Today, 11:38 AM	#341
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $439655	You'd really have us believing that Kelce, Hunt, Hopkins, and Worthy is a worse group than Engram, Etienne, Davis, and Thomas Jr? Both QBs lost their #1 WR for the year, so that doesn't really hold much water either.
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Today, 11:43 AM	#342
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $249611	I can’t figure out why Mahomes is not playing well this year. I mean Kingsley, Steele, Watson and Hardman are playing meaningful starting snaps through at least 3 games a piece, his TE is 35 and Rashee Rice still leads the WR’s in yards despite not playing since week 4. How interesting that since acquiring Hopkins, Mahomes has a 6/1 TD/INT ratio with over 800 yards passing and would be on pace for 4,600+ yards and 34 TD’s. Almost like talent matters __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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Today, 11:43 AM	#343
saltydd5 Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $9485400	get these tackles fixed and these WR's start kicking ass!
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Today, 11:43 AM	#344
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $7172956	Pederson as OC under Reid was good. As a HC, he may stink. __________________ - Mark
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Today, 11:50 AM	#345
Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $439655	Extrapolate Lawrence's stats out to a full season and he's sitting at 3754 yards, 20 TDs, and 12 INTs. 2023 Lawrence had 4016 yards, 21 TDs, and 14 INTs. 2023 Mahomes had 4183 yards, 27 TDs, and 14 INTs. Matt Nagy ****ing sucks LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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