Pacheco, Juju, and Omenihu very close to returning

[SHOWTIME]

Coach Reid says JuJu Smith-Schuster, Isiah Pacheco and Charles Omenihu are all "very close" to returning.

— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) November 11, 2024

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

How do they rotate Danna, Omenihu, Uche and Felix? Should be interesting to see the snap counts if all are healthy.

Danna was getting dog-walked and Uche seemed to think he was Reggie White out there trying to bull-rush everyone.

So it would seem that the answer is a pretty easy one - Omenihu, Danna and Karlaftis will get the 1st and 2nd down snaps while occasionally rotating inside on 3rd down, Uche comes in on 3rd.

But the other possible answer is...does it even !@#$ing matter? Because the 3 of those guys we HAD yesterday were interchangeably irrelevant.

And god dammit can we NOT shove Jones outside on 3rd and shorts as often as we did yesterday? We were doing them a MASSIVE favor there. You KNOW that Nix is gonna get the ball out at the back of 3 step drop. Why are you wasting Jones by putting him out at DE and dicking around with various mediocre alternatives at DT. I love what Wharton's done this year but we kept asking him to anchor that interior rush when Jones was moving outside and he was getting completely stonewalled.

After as completely ineffective as that DE rotation was yesterday, I'm inclined to just throw my hands up and say "Who gives a shit" because if the guys we have are going to play like that, it doesn't really matter how we rotate them. They were all pretty much shite.

I'm hopeful it was because Cullen and Spags settled on a 'contain rush' plan against Nix to deal with his mobility and THAT'S why they weren't getting any pressure. Because damn man, we have got to be better than that.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Danna was getting dog-walked and Uche seemed to think he was Reggie White out there trying to bull-rush everyone.

So it would seem that the answer is a pretty easy one - Omenihu, Danna and Karlaftis will get the 1st and 2nd down snaps while occasionally rotating inside on 3rd down, Uche comes in on 3rd.

But the other possible answer is...does it even !@#$ing matter? Because the 3 of those guys we HAD yesterday were interchangeably irrelevant.

And god dammit can we NOT shove Jones outside on 3rd and shorts as often as we did yesterday? We were doing them a MASSIVE favor there. You KNOW that Nix is gonna get the ball out at the back of 3 step drop. Why are you wasting Jones by putting him out at DE and dicking around with various mediocre alternatives at DT. I love what Wharton's done this year but we kept asking him to anchor that interior rush when Jones was moving outside and he was getting completely stonewalled.

After as completely ineffective as that DE rotation was yesterday, I'm inclined to just throw my hands up and say "Who gives a shit" because if the guys we have are going to play like that, it doesn't really matter how we rotate them. They were all pretty much shite.

I'm hopeful it was because Cullen and Spags settled on a 'contain rush' plan against Nix to deal with his mobility and THAT'S why they weren't getting any pressure. Because damn man, we have got to be better than that.

I thought getting Uche was so we could keep jones inside , pushing the pocket up the middle with outside speed would seem much more effective.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I thought getting Uche was so we could keep jones inside , pushing the pocket up the middle with outside speed would seem much more effective.

Certainly my understanding as well.

But watch that 4th quarter. I think he was lined up wide outside more than he was on the interior. Or at least anytime I was looking for him on 3rd down, it seemed like that's where we were lining him up.

And he never got anywhere. I do remember one play specifically where it looked like maybe he thought he was feeling a screen because he did a swipe then stopped his rush. That was the play where I thought "well maybe this is by design and they're not TRYING to push upfield, instead they're trying to use Jones to build that picket fence to Nix's right..."

I really don't have an answer for how they were doing things yesterday. Uche wasn't trying to get the arc. Jones wasn't inside on critical 3rd downs.

I honestly have no earthly idea how the Chiefs held Denver to 14 points. I can't name a unit on that field that played well for them. Maybe the safeties? Reid and Cook were pretty good.

The rest of the defense? I really can't find many positives to take from that game for them.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

[poolboy]

Jones lines up where he wants to...Spags or Andy need to put a stop to that..

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Certainly my understanding as well.

But watch that 4th quarter. I think he was lined up wide outside more than he was on the interior. Or at least anytime I was looking for him on 3rd down, it seemed like that's where we were lining him up.

And he never got anywhere. I do remember one play specifically where it looked like maybe he thought he was feeling a screen because he did a swipe then stopped his rush. That was the play where I thought "well maybe this is by design and they're not TRYING to push upfield, instead they're trying to use Jones to build that picket fence to Nix's right..."

I really don't have an answer for how they were doing things yesterday. Uche wasn't trying to get the arc. Jones wasn't inside on critical 3rd downs.

I honestly have no earthly idea how the Chiefs held Denver to 14 points. I can't name a unit on that field that played well for them. Maybe the safeties? Reid and Cook were pretty good.

The rest of the defense? I really can't find many positives to take from that game for them.

2nd half defense looked like normal until the last drive. They stopped the run and blitzed Nix on 3rd down which made him panic. No idea why Spags held back from blitzing so much throughout the game

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

100 total yards says otherwise.

I am not looking at stats, just watching the player. He had set a very high bar on his running success the first few weeks.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

He looked downright beat up. Just watching him get up after he was tackled made me hurt

Exactly! I am thrilled he had "100 total yards" but like you say, he was "whoooped."

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

2nd half defense looked like normal until the last drive. They stopped the run and blitzed Nix on 3rd down which made him panic. No idea why Spags held back from blitzing so much throughout the game

Had to be a contain gameplan.

Really the only answer I've got.

Because it was easily the most passive I've seen this defense all year. And I think that was a gameplan that was, in large part, dependent on McDuffie NOT getting worked all day by Courtland Sutton.

I think their plan was to keep Nix in the pocket and force him to make throws into tight windows. But Johnson struggled on quick hitters, McDuffie struggled in general and the LBs were spotty at best in maintaining zone discipline over the middle.

So suddenly the tight throws they figured Nix would have to make just weren't difficult at all. And he could bake a cake back there before he made 'em.

[TinyEvel]

Let's lock down the division by week 13 and rest Mahomes and most of the starters for the last four games. Imagine the post season run.
It might be the only voodoo trick we haven't used yet. The league's head would explode

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Certainly my understanding as well.

But watch that 4th quarter. I think he was lined up wide outside more than he was on the interior. Or at least anytime I was looking for him on 3rd down, it seemed like that's where we were lining him up.

And he never got anywhere. I do remember one play specifically where it looked like maybe he thought he was feeling a screen because he did a swipe then stopped his rush. That was the play where I thought "well maybe this is by design and they're not TRYING to push upfield, instead they're trying to use Jones to build that picket fence to Nix's right..."

I really don't have an answer for how they were doing things yesterday. Uche wasn't trying to get the arc. Jones wasn't inside on critical 3rd downs.

I honestly have no earthly idea how the Chiefs held Denver to 14 points. I can't name a unit on that field that played well for them. Maybe the safeties? Reid and Cook were pretty good.

The rest of the defense? I really can't find many positives to take from that game for them.

.
Because Denver.