Football Best all-time NFL records - Page 3

RedinTexas · 06:09 PM

****Updated through 2023-24 season****

The NFL began in 1920 and there are only 2 teams that remain from the original league, the Bears and the Cardinals. There have been 49 NFL teams that folded and all existing teams started in widely varying years. Because of that, teams have played wildly different quality of opponents and widely varying numbers of games. However, given all of that, here are the top 10 teams in all-time winning percentage:

1) Dallas Cowboys - 562-413-6 .576 (up .002 from last year)

2) Green Bay Packers - 799-598-38 .570 (down .001 from last year)

3) Baltimore Ravens - 256-194-1 .569 (up .008 from last year)

4) New England Patriots - 541-433-9 .555 (down .006 from last year)

5) Chicago Bears - 793-634-42 .556 (down .002 from last year)

6) Miami Dolphins - 496-399-4 .554 (up .002 from last year)

7) Kansas City Chiefs - 532-439-12 .547 (up .001 from last year and up one spot in these standings)

8) Minnesota Vikings - 523-435-11 .545 (down .007 from last year and down one spot in these standings)

9) San Francisco 49ers - 586-501-14 .539 (up .003 from last year)

10) Pittsburgh Steelers - 671-578-22 .537 (up .001 from last year)

The Bears and Packers both benefited from playing a lot of bad teams that folded shortly after founding. The Ravens were established in 1996, but were actually the Cleveland Browns, so they were a fully formed franchise from the very start and did not suffer the pains of an expansion team.

[I removed the speculation here about where we might finish in the next season. I'll come back and address that sometime before next season starts.]

I also broke down the numbers into the NFL divisions and found the following winning percentages:

1) NFC North .532 (unchanged)

2) AFC West .521 (down .001 from last year)

3) NFC East .520 (unchanged)

4) AFC East .508 (unchanged)

5) AFC North .508 (up .002 from last year)

6) NFC West .490 (up .001 from last year)

7) AFC South .484 (unchanged)

8) NFC South .442 (down .001 from last year)

The AFC West is also the only division in which every team is over .500. The NFC South is the only division in which every team is under .500.

Finally, I don't know whether this last comparison is meaningful, but in all-time records:

1) AFC .507 (unchanged)

2) NFC .502 (down .001 from last year)

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-21-2024, 06:17 PM

When we go 20-0 next year, it will help...

RedinTexas · 02-21-2024, 06:18 PM

****Updated****

[I updated this post too]

Looking into the records of all the NFL teams I found that every single team with games against defunct teams, except for the Steelers, had their winning percentages reduced by removing those games. Eleven teams had games played against defunct teams, but only 2 of those are currently in the AFC. Of those two teams, the Steeler and the Browns, each played fewer than 50 games against those opponents. On the other end, the Bears, Cardinals, Packers, and Giants each had more than 100 such games. I put together the list again and found the following:

1) Dallas Cowboys - 562-413-6 .576

2) Baltimore Ravens - 256-194-1 .569

3) New England Patriots - 541-433-9 .555

4) Miami Dolphins - 496-399-4 .554 (moved up one spot)

5) Green Bay Packers - 721-581-30 .553 (moved down one spot)

6) Kansas City Chiefs - 532-439-12 .547 (moved up one spot)

7) Minnesota Vikings - 523-435-11 .552 (moved down one spot)

8) Pittsburgh Steelers - 653-563-20 .536

9) Chicago Bears - 703-617-28 .533

10) San Francisco 49ers - 546-491-8 .526 (moved up one spot)

The Chiefs are one position higher in these standings and could actually move up as high as #2 this year with a lot of breaks. It's more likely that we could move up 2 spots at the most.

The divisional breakdown looks like this:

1) AFC West .521

2) NFC North .518

3) NFC East .512

4) AFC East .508

5) AFC North .502

6) AFC South .484

7) NFC West .482

8) NFC South .442

Finally, the breakdown of the AFC and NFC all-time win percentages makes a little more sense:

1) AFC .505

2) NFC .494

Chitownchiefsfan · 02-21-2024, 10:12 PM

Any way to see what the bottom 10 teams look like?

scho63 · 02-21-2024, 11:19 PM

We made a HUGE improvement during the Andy Reid era. We were shit before that.

RedinTexas · 02-22-2024, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Any way to see what the bottom 10 teams look like?

23) New Orleans Saints 412-468-5 .468

24) Carolina Panthers 214-252-1 .459

25) Detroit Lions 591-707-34 .456

26) Cincinnati Bengals 394-471-5 .456

27) New York Jets 428-547-8 .439

28) Atlanta Falcons 390-503-6 .437

29) Houston Texans 152-202-1 .430

30) Jacksonville Jaguars 198-269-0 .424

31) Arizona Cardinals 585-803-41 .424

32) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 308-450-1 .406

RedinTexas · 07-01-2024, 11:43 AM

I dug up this post to update the records, but see that I already did so in February. I will add some prospects for movement on the list.

At the end of the upcoming season all of the original AFL teams (except Buffalo) will have played exactly 1000 regular season games, barring something unforeseen to alter the season, so calculating the all-time winning percentage of each of those teams is pretty easy. By the method the NFL uses to calculate winning percentages each team gets half a win and half a loss for each tie. The Chiefs have a record of 532 wins and 12 ties in their history, so the NFL will count that as 538 wins for the purpose of calculating all-time winning percentage. So, with all that said, if the Chiefs win 0 games this year, their all-time winning percentage will be .538, and we can add .001 to that winning percentage for each game the Chiefs win up to .555 if the Chiefs go undefeated.

The Chiefs current all-time winning percentage is .547 and ranks #7. The only 2 teams behind us with any realistic chance of catching us are the Vikings and the 49ers.

The Vikings are ranked #8 at .545 and have a potential range of .536 to .553.

The 49ers are ranked #9 at .539 and have a potential range of .530 to .546.

Neither of those 2 teams should pass the Chiefs this year if the Chiefs perform as expected.

There are 6 teams ahead of us and the first two teams are the Cowboys and Packers. The Chiefs will not be able to catch either of those teams this year. The Ravens are #3, but they cannot be caught unless they win 3 or fewer games this year and that seems very unrealistic.

That leaves just 3 teams that the Chiefs could realistically catch this year. The #6 Dolphins, the #5 Bears, and the #4 Patriots.

The Dolphins have a potential range of .544 if they win 0 games, and .562 if they win all of their games. If they win 11 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them this year.

The Bears have a potential range of .548 to .559. If they win 12 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them.

The Patriots have a potential range of .546 to .563. If they win 10 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them.

It would be nice to see all 3 of the Bears, Patriots, and Dolphins have bad seasons and watch the Chiefs pass them up to #3. Personally, I think the Chiefs will finish the season as #5 or maybe #4.

**Rain Man** · 07-01-2024, 12:00 PM

How are both the AFC and the NFC over .500? Is that an effect of defunct teams prior to 1940 having losing records?

RedinTexas · 07-01-2024, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

How are both the AFC and the NFC over .500? Is that an effect of defunct teams prior to 1940 having losing records?

Yes. I did another breakdown with the wins and losses against defunct teams removed and it came out

AFC .505
NFC .494

ThrobProng · 07-01-2024, 12:21 PM

Records since the start of the salary cap might be interesting.

kcgreene · 07-01-2024, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng

Records since the start of the salary cap might be interesting.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...ise-since-1994

1 Pats 320-163
2 Packers 305-176-2
3 Steelers 302-178-3
4 Chiefs 277-206

Searched and first thing pulled up, so can't verify, but thought Id post the link.

**Dartgod** · 07-01-2024, 12:36 PM

I can't wait to see which team holds the record for consecutive Super Bowl wins after this season.

DanT · 07-01-2024, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I can't wait to see which team holds the record for consecutive Super Bowl wins after this season.

We already are one of the teams that hold that record (in a tie) and could end up all alone in first, if things go our way.

RedinTexas · Today, 06:40 AM

The Chiefs began this year in 7th place on the all-time win percentage list. We passed the Minnesota Vikings last year, but only barely. We were closing in on the Miami Dolphins at #6, Chicago Bears at #5, and the New England Patriots at #4.

4 - Patriots - .5549
5 - Bears - .5541
6 - Dolphins - .5539
7 - Chiefs - .5473
8 - Vikings - .5454

Since the Chiefs are still undefeated this year and nobody else is, the Chiefs have gained ground on everyone. In fact, the Chiefs are on the verge of moving up past both the Dolphins and the Patriots in the next 2 weeks. We can pass the Bears this season, but it will take several more wins and Bears losses to do that.

Current standings

4 - Bears - .5538
5 - Patriots - .5519
6 - Dolphins - .5513
7 - Chiefs - .5510
8 - Vikings - .5471

If the Chiefs win this coming weekend and the Patriots and Dolphins lose, the Chiefs will pass both of them and move up from #7 to #5 all-time.

11-10-24
New England @ Chicago
Denver @ Kansas City

11-11-24
Miami @ Los Angeles Rams

07-06-2023, 01:01 PM
RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $362500	Best all-time NFL records **Updated through 2023-24 season** The NFL began in 1920 and there are only 2 teams that remain from the original league, the Bears and the Cardinals. There have been 49 NFL teams that folded and all existing teams started in widely varying years. Because of that, teams have played wildly different quality of opponents and widely varying numbers of games. However, given all of that, here are the top 10 teams in all-time winning percentage: 1) Dallas Cowboys - 562-413-6 .576 (up .002 from last year) 2) Green Bay Packers - 799-598-38 .570 (down .001 from last year) 3) Baltimore Ravens - 256-194-1 .569 (up .008 from last year) 4) New England Patriots - 541-433-9 .555 (down .006 from last year) 5) Chicago Bears - 793-634-42 .556 (down .002 from last year) 6) Miami Dolphins - 496-399-4 .554 (up .002 from last year) 7) Kansas City Chiefs - 532-439-12 .547 (up .001 from last year and up one spot in these standings) 8) Minnesota Vikings - 523-435-11 .545 (down .007 from last year and down one spot in these standings) 9) San Francisco 49ers - 586-501-14 .539 (up .003 from last year) 10) Pittsburgh Steelers - 671-578-22 .537 (up .001 from last year) The Bears and Packers both benefited from playing a lot of bad teams that folded shortly after founding. The Ravens were established in 1996, but were actually the Cleveland Browns, so they were a fully formed franchise from the very start and did not suffer the pains of an expansion team. [I removed the speculation here about where we might finish in the next season. I'll come back and address that sometime before next season starts.] I also broke down the numbers into the NFL divisions and found the following winning percentages: 1) NFC North .532 (unchanged) 2) AFC West .521 (down .001 from last year) 3) NFC East .520 (unchanged) 4) AFC East .508 (unchanged) 5) AFC North .508 (up .002 from last year) 6) NFC West .490 (up .001 from last year) 7) AFC South .484 (unchanged) 8) NFC South .442 (down .001 from last year) The AFC West is also the only division in which every team is over .500. The NFC South is the only division in which every team is under .500. Finally, I don't know whether this last comparison is meaningful, but in all-time records: 1) AFC .507 (unchanged) 2) NFC .502 (down .001 from last year) Last edited by RedinTexas; 02-21-2024 at 06:09 PM.. Reason: Update
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RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $362500	**Updated** [I updated this post too] Looking into the records of all the NFL teams I found that every single team with games against defunct teams, except for the Steelers, had their winning percentages reduced by removing those games. Eleven teams had games played against defunct teams, but only 2 of those are currently in the AFC. Of those two teams, the Steeler and the Browns, each played fewer than 50 games against those opponents. On the other end, the Bears, Cardinals, Packers, and Giants each had more than 100 such games. I put together the list again and found the following: 1) Dallas Cowboys - 562-413-6 .576 2) Baltimore Ravens - 256-194-1 .569 3) New England Patriots - 541-433-9 .555 4) Miami Dolphins - 496-399-4 .554 (moved up one spot) 5) Green Bay Packers - 721-581-30 .553 (moved down one spot) 6) Kansas City Chiefs - 532-439-12 .547 (moved up one spot) 7) Minnesota Vikings - 523-435-11 .552 (moved down one spot) 8) Pittsburgh Steelers - 653-563-20 .536 9) Chicago Bears - 703-617-28 .533 10) San Francisco 49ers - 546-491-8 .526 (moved up one spot) The Chiefs are one position higher in these standings and could actually move up as high as #2 this year with a lot of breaks. It's more likely that we could move up 2 spots at the most. The divisional breakdown looks like this: 1) AFC West .521 2) NFC North .518 3) NFC East .512 4) AFC East .508 5) AFC North .502 6) AFC South .484 7) NFC West .482 8) NFC South .442 Finally, the breakdown of the AFC and NFC all-time win percentages makes a little more sense: 1) AFC .505 2) NFC .494
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RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $362500	I dug up this post to update the records, but see that I already did so in February. I will add some prospects for movement on the list. At the end of the upcoming season all of the original AFL teams (except Buffalo) will have played exactly 1000 regular season games, barring something unforeseen to alter the season, so calculating the all-time winning percentage of each of those teams is pretty easy. By the method the NFL uses to calculate winning percentages each team gets half a win and half a loss for each tie. The Chiefs have a record of 532 wins and 12 ties in their history, so the NFL will count that as 538 wins for the purpose of calculating all-time winning percentage. So, with all that said, if the Chiefs win 0 games this year, their all-time winning percentage will be .538, and we can add .001 to that winning percentage for each game the Chiefs win up to .555 if the Chiefs go undefeated. The Chiefs current all-time winning percentage is .547 and ranks #7. The only 2 teams behind us with any realistic chance of catching us are the Vikings and the 49ers. The Vikings are ranked #8 at .545 and have a potential range of .536 to .553. The 49ers are ranked #9 at .539 and have a potential range of .530 to .546. Neither of those 2 teams should pass the Chiefs this year if the Chiefs perform as expected. There are 6 teams ahead of us and the first two teams are the Cowboys and Packers. The Chiefs will not be able to catch either of those teams this year. The Ravens are #3, but they cannot be caught unless they win 3 or fewer games this year and that seems very unrealistic. That leaves just 3 teams that the Chiefs could realistically catch this year. The #6 Dolphins, the #5 Bears, and the #4 Patriots. The Dolphins have a potential range of .544 if they win 0 games, and .562 if they win all of their games. If they win 11 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them this year. The Bears have a potential range of .548 to .559. If they win 12 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them. The Patriots have a potential range of .546 to .563. If they win 10 or more games the Chiefs will be unable to catch them. It would be nice to see all 3 of the Bears, Patriots, and Dolphins have bad seasons and watch the Chiefs pass them up to #3. Personally, I think the Chiefs will finish the season as #5 or maybe #4. __________________ DJ's left nut : "Florio's just being a ****. And a not terribly interesting or insightful one at that."
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RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $362500	The Chiefs began this year in 7th place on the all-time win percentage list. We passed the Minnesota Vikings last year, but only barely. We were closing in on the Miami Dolphins at #6, Chicago Bears at #5, and the New England Patriots at #4. 4 - Patriots - .5549 5 - Bears - .5541 6 - Dolphins - .5539 7 - Chiefs - .5473 8 - Vikings - .5454 Since the Chiefs are still undefeated this year and nobody else is, the Chiefs have gained ground on everyone. In fact, the Chiefs are on the verge of moving up past both the Dolphins and the Patriots in the next 2 weeks. We can pass the Bears this season, but it will take several more wins and Bears losses to do that. Current standings 4 - Bears - .5538 5 - Patriots - .5519 6 - Dolphins - .5513 7 - Chiefs - .5510 8 - Vikings - .5471 If the Chiefs win this coming weekend and the Patriots and Dolphins lose, the Chiefs will pass both of them and move up from #7 to #5 all-time. 11-10-24 New England @ Chicago Denver @ Kansas City 11-11-24 Miami @ Los Angeles Rams __________________ DJ's left nut : "Florio's just being a ****. And a not terribly interesting or insightful one at that."
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