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**** October 10th, Yankees at Royals ALDS Game 4 GDT ****
Time to shake off last night! The Royals have been relentless throughout this season, beating expectations time and again. Tonight the boys in blue are going to take Game 4 and send this series back to New York. Fans at the K be LOUD! These opportunities don't happen every year, or even every decade. Enjoy it!

Go Royals!
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Old Today, 08:53 AM   #676
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Since the New York Yankees' last World Series win in 2009, their collective payrolls and accumulated totals have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2010: $215.1 million
2011: $196.9 million
2012: $229.7 million
2013: $228.0 million
2014: $203.1 million
2015: $199.9 million
2016: $200.0 million
2017: $198.7 million
2018: $164.4 million
2019: $203.9 million
2020: $243.8 million
2021: $211.5 million
2022: $259.5 million
2023: $292.0 million
2024: $325.0 million

The accumulated payroll for the New York Yankees since their last World Series win in 2009 is $3,371.5 billion.
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Old Today, 08:55 AM   #677
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Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp
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Was the wind really blowing in that hard? I have been out a lot today and didn't really notice the wind being too strong. Do I trust Costas and if so we missed two homers tonight?

They ran on Salvy he must have been worn down. I think I'd played Freddy at the plate and DH'ed Sal or put him at 1st. Vinny I believe was rushed back.

Really need a little more pop in the lineup. MJ needs to be replaced in LF and Isbel is good glove but just not much offense. Old man Pham was pretty good but really not a guy you bring back.

Q as a manager I appreciate the job he did but damn pull these guys that cant find the plate. To keep pitching to Stanton lost this series for you. There were plenty of opportunities to pitch around him. Hope he learns from this.
No, the wind was very light.
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Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp
Now compile revenue and compare payroll as a percentage.
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This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg
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This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg
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This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg
This one is interesting too.
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This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg


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This is an interesting infographic.

https://x.com/brooks_gate/status/181...O2tUt4SmxPFYbg
Probably is that it uses luxury tax payrolls.

Which is akin to using a team's Salary Cap figure as a proxy for Cash Spending.

And for many (if not most) ballclubs, those aren't even reasonable proxies because a luxury tax payroll uses AAV whereas the actual payroll spent is cash spending.

Look at the Cardinals, for example. That infographic says they had a $212 million payroll. They weren't even CLOSE.

They were, on the high side of the range, around $180 million in payroll spending this year. On the lower side, you'll see figures at around $150 million when accounting for things like retained payments from other clubs.

I suspect the $180 million is the more accurate figure, but even using that figure, the figure they use is inflated by almost 20%.

The difference comes from backloaded deals and deferrals. A team like the Dodgers has a staggering $46 million 'tax payroll' for Ohtani but only paid him $2 million this year.

The Royals have an ever bigger gap because they get drilled for Witt's full AAV on their tax bill but only paid him $2.7 million this year. His luxury tax percentage, OTOH, was $26.2 million. So they get 'credit' for $24 million in spending they didn't actually do. So their 'luxury tax total' was a little over $160 million. Their adjusted payroll total was about $122 million. Then their cash total (because of signing bonuses) was about in the middle of that.

I'd probably say your best bet is to try to find your cash spending totals for most of these teams. That's gonna give you the best guess about the 'commitment level' each team has.
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Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!
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Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!
They said on the broadcast last night what a good guy he is, this exemplifies that.
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Sort of like Brady going to the locker room to talk to Mahomes. Hopefully this has a similar outcome next year!
Except Mahomes actually played like a star in the AFCCG game and fell just short, whereas Witt had an awful ALDS and didn't fall just short.
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Since the Kansas City Royals' last World Series win in 2015, their payroll salaries have been as follows:

Yearly Payrolls
2016: $128,892,314
2017: $152,148,299
2018: $114,779,170
2019: $105,816,031
2020: $105,316,895
2021: $157,407,477
2022: $97,303,989
2023: $119,930,000
2024: $120,351,954

The accumulated payroll for the Kansas City Royals since their last World Series win in 2015 is approximately $1,101,945,129.

Nearly precisely 3x the Yankees. Nice DJJasonp
So a third of the money the Yanks spent in that time period and 3x the success (2 pennants and a trophy). 3 things the Yankers haven't seen since 2009.
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