Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs This seems to explain Mahomes happy feet
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 5 of 6 1234 5 6
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-01-2024, 12:59 PM  
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $219611
This seems to explain Mahomes happy feet
OL got absolutely wrecked the first 3 drives. Patrick probably felt like he had to get rid for he ball quickly or scramble the rest of the game bc of the early OL play.
Posts: 48,773
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 6 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2024, 11:27 PM   #61
New World Order New World Order is offline
Choco Favre
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Casino cash: $624765
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
OL got absolutely wrecked the first 3 drives. Patrick probably felt like he had to get rid for he ball quickly or scramble the rest of the game bc of the early OL play.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi View Post
Agreed
Hmm

Which part do you agree with?
Posts: 30,863
New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.New World Order is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 02:52 AM   #62
-King- -King- is offline
▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓
 
-King-'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Casino cash: $435743
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlphg9 View Post
The most significant change was that Mahomes went from being an MVP to looking like a mere mortal.
Well yeah. The why is what we're trying to figure out. You don't think coaching has something to do with it? With him even saying his fundamentals and mechanics are a mess?
Posts: 64,623
-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 03:08 AM   #63
ThyKingdomCome15 ThyKingdomCome15 is offline
MVP
 
ThyKingdomCome15's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2019
Casino cash: $900400
Mitch is gem. I love that guy.
Posts: 8,322
ThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliThyKingdomCome15 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 06:27 AM   #64
TEX TEX is offline
Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police
 
TEX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Galveston, TX
Casino cash: $393127
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- View Post
It was the only significant change unless you think going from Juju to Rice was a significant downgrade. They upgraded at RT and stayed the same/slight downgrade at LT.

The biggest and most consequential change was Nagy.
Yep. It's not rocket science, it's connect the dots.
__________________
"The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
Posts: 36,113
TEX has disabled reputation
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 06:36 AM   #65
O.city O.city is online now
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1014064
The offense doesn't look any different to me though?
Posts: 82,971
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 07:53 AM   #66
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $364910
I think the answer is that there are a few things just a little bit off. I don't think wholesale changes are a good idea. That just introduces more uncertainty. I just think they need to play through it and settle in.
Posts: 18,109
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:01 AM   #67
O.city O.city is online now
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1014064
Some of that from Mitch seems.....a little hard on the OL. If the expectation is a perfect pocket....I dunno. Seems he settled in ok the more the game progressed.
Posts: 82,971
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 4 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:11 AM   #68
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $364910
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Some of that from Mitch seems.....a little hard on the OL. If the expectation is a perfect pocket....I dunno. Seems he settled in ok the more the game progressed.
I think they just came out a little flat. Their opponents never do, because KC is the benchmark everyone aims for.

It must be a Herculean effort to be 100% locked in 20 games a year, for four quarters each week. I think it's that simple.
Posts: 18,109
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:19 AM   #69
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $219611
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Some of that from Mitch seems.....a little hard on the OL. If the expectation is a perfect pocket....I dunno. Seems he settled in ok the more the game progressed.
They played against a DL with nobodies and Mack and got their ass kicked the entire first half. They should be called on it.

The Watson miss and Worthy miss was on Trey IMO. You can’t get beat like that and walked back into your QB, especially when the guy that’s open in on that side and you’re blocking the QB’s line of sight.

OL ruined those missed not Patrick
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,773
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:27 AM   #70
O.city O.city is online now
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1014064
They didn't get their ass kicked. If getting pushed back a half step or two and reanchoring is getting your ass kicked and causes your QB to do that....then we've got bigger issues.
Posts: 82,971
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:29 AM   #71
O.city O.city is online now
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $1014064
The excuses we're kinda going thru to make it so it's not the QB playing poorly are getting a little extreme.

The pocket is a maelstrom. You've gotta be able to feel your way around in there.
Posts: 82,971
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:41 AM   #72
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $219611
Yeah it was a total loss by the OL on the right side. I don’t think Patrick even saw Watson bc Trey was pushed into his face as Watson got open. Also pressure from Jawaan’s side.

The 2nd half was Patrick’s fault but the first half was the OL.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: IMG_5804.jpg Views: 54 Size: 43.6 KB ID: 128039  
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
Posts: 48,773
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 08:57 AM   #73
Wallcrawler Wallcrawler is online now
How tall is this thing?
 
Wallcrawler's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ground 0 for enema of US.
Casino cash: $3622912
How dare you, Mitchell Schwartz.

How dare you question the keen football eyes of such legendary CP talent evaluators like TheTardian and BWillie?

You would place blame on the BEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL simply to cover for this...this sham? Thus fraud we have suiting up at qb?

Patrick Mahomes is not elite. Hell, he's not even good. Point of fact, Patrick Mahomes flat out sucks and is merely the product of 6 years of the most masterful smoke and mirrors performances by Andy Reid the world has ever seen.

Don't you ever again, Mitchell Schwartz, dare put the poor performances of this paper champion we have posing as a quarterback on our infallible offensive line.

Tardian, BWillie, and the rest of the CP Mahomes truthers, I am sorry that you have been slighted by Mitchell Schwartz in this way.

The world needs to know that Patrick Mahomes was never elite. Just a lucky back yard football turd polished to a diamond shine by the greatest coach that ever lived.
__________________
If shit could shit, it still wouldn't be as shitty as this sig.
Posts: 7,200
Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 09:29 AM   #74
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $989099
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
They didn't get their ass kicked. If getting pushed back a half step or two and reanchoring is getting your ass kicked and causes your QB to do that....then we've got bigger issues.
The first quarter was a little more than 'getting pushed back and re-anchoring..."

It was a concerted effort by SD to just collapse the pocket.

It was almost funny. Again, they weren't really even making rush moves. They were just hammering into the line and attempting to rock the middle.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,557
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2024, 09:51 AM   #75
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $989099
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
The offense doesn't look any different to me though?
Schematically it isn't.

And honestly, I'd be surprised if the aggregate OL 'fail rate' is even any worse than it has been in years past.

We're probably having roughly the same number of 'ick' plays but we're not surrounding them with the splash plays. Maybe there's some cumulative affect on PM so he's getting jumpy. Maybe it's simply that he's missing the shots he usually hits.

Focusing on the 'failed' plays kinda overlooks the fact that in years past, those plays didn't fail even when the OL played at that same level.

We've talked about this as it relates to the run game a lot of times. The studies on this show that the success rate for the OL has a much higher correlation to success on a run play than it does on a pass. And it is essentially across the line.

In other words, for a successful run play, you need 5 guys to all make their blocks.

On a passing play, that correlation isn't nearly as strong. A guy can fail and the play could very easily still work. QBs have far more ability to make chicken salad from chicken shit than RBs do. And that's what's being lost in this conversation.

Great QBs have an almost preternatural ability to make chicken salad from chicken shit. PM is the best (maybe ever) at that when he's playing well.

Right now we're getting some of those same failures we've always had and using them as justifications for a failed play when they didn't used to scuttle that play the way they are at the moment.

The data's out there.

But I do think there's room for a little bit of latitude at least as it relates to that first quarter because what the Chargers did was just completely unique and we clearly were not ready for it. I can see how that might have rattled Mahomes a bit. It doesn't excuse the dog-ass pass he threw to Kelce with a plenty clean pocket or his subsequently smashing Rice's knee, but it might explain why so much of that quarter seemed completely disjointed.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,557
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 5 of 6 1234 5 6

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:36 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.