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Old 09-30-2024, 05:18 PM  
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Old 09-30-2024, 05:42 PM   #16
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The lifetime ban is over now with his death, so he'll get in.
Yeup.

Dude made a deal to save his skin and agreed to a lifetime ban.

Well...stay is lifted.

Go ahead and put him in.
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Old 09-30-2024, 05:44 PM   #17
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Old 09-30-2024, 05:45 PM   #18
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Old 09-30-2024, 05:46 PM   #19
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He was a dick, and ultimately his own worst enemy, but he was also one of the greatest players of all time and should absolutely be in the HOF. And I think it's pretty hard for the MLB whores to keep anybody out over gambling at this point since they themselves have crawled in bed with it. It's not like he ever bet on himself or his team to lose.

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He was a dick, and ultimately his own worst enemy, but he was also one of the greatest players of all time and should absolutely be in the HOF. And I think it's pretty hard for the MLB whores to keep anybody out over gambling at this point since they themselves have crawled in bed with it. It's not like he ever bet on himself or his team to lose.

RIP.
It was never about the games he bet to win. It was about the games he chose not to bet on. I don’t really care if he gets in or not. But the idea that he never threw games is not true.

Same with Joe Jackson and the splits behind high leverage and low leverage situations. Dude was unbelievably good in the playoff series when games didn’t matter and uncharacteristically terrible when they mattered. He definitely threw the series
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Old 09-30-2024, 05:55 PM   #22
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He was a dick, and ultimately his own worst enemy, but he was also one of the greatest players of all time and should absolutely be in the HOF. And I think it's pretty hard for the MLB whores to keep anybody out over gambling at this point since they themselves have crawled in bed with it. It's not like he ever bet on himself or his team to lose.

RIP.
You really don't think he did?

I think he ABSOLUTELY did. That's why he signed the deal.

He wanted MLB to stop digging and at the time that mattered more to him than the HoF or anything else. He did it to himself and I absolutely believe that the reason is that when the digging continued, there'd be no doubt what the outcome would be apart from possible prison time.
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It was never about the games he bet to win. It was about the games he chose not to bet on. I don’t really care if he gets in or not. But the idea that he never threw games is not true.

Same with Joe Jackson and the splits behind high leverage and low leverage situations. Dude was unbelievably good in the playoff series when games didn’t matter and uncharacteristically terrible when they mattered. He definitely threw the series
I've never heard that particular take on it. Don't really give enough of a shit to delve into it. But if true, you make a valid point. Of course, God only knows how many other players were involved.

And also, I can't help but think about the scumbag Asstros players who basically got no punishment whatsoever for blatantly cheating during the World Series. The whole lot of those ****ers should have been banned for life and their championship should have been nullified. It's hard to imagine the endless dumping on Rose (and Jackson) when shit like that is allowed to stand. Is it only cheating if you play to lose? I don't think so.
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Damn they are all passing. RIP baseball hitting sports gambling man.

Hope he gets in the Hall posthumously now.

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I've never heard that particular take on it. Don't really give enough of a shit to delve into it. But if true, you make a valid point. Of course, God only knows how many other players were involved.

And also, I can't help but think about the scumbag Asstros players who basically got no punishment whatsoever for blatantly cheating during the World Series. The whole lot of those ****ers should have been banned for life and their championship should have been nullified. It's hard to imagine the endless dumping on Rose (and Jackson) when shit like that is allowed to stand. Is it only cheating if you play to lose? I don't think so.
Yeah that’s why I don’t have a particular opinion on who gets into the hall of fame. I also think there are steroids users who should get in.

But there’s a lot of data that points to Pete rose making lineup and pitching decisions based on if he bet on the game or not. Maybe you save up your best bullpen arms even if you’re winning. And maybe you destroy a pitcher like Mario sotos pitching career by throwing his arm out so you can make money. Maybe you put yourself in the lineup to make sure you break the hits record. There’s a lot of sketchiness in how he managed the team
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Ditto. Until the Royals came along. Hated when he went to Philly. Didn't like him after that. RIP
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They made it clear Rose can go in the next year after his death. He was banned for life. He is no longer alive and is now eligible for the HOF.
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