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Old 09-23-2024, 07:39 AM  
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Andy Reid called me, and he asked CP to fix the offense.
I think we can all agree the offense has not been up to par this season.

At this point, there's only so much we can do about it. Our best WR got injured and is missing the season, our best RB is out until December, our LT situation is messy and our stud TE is looking his age.

So, is this who we are now? Is 30 points a game a distant memory?

What can be done?

(Andy Reid is lurking in this thread, so make sure you're on your best behavior.)
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Old 09-24-2024, 01:58 PM   #466
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Yeah, Reid has some annoying tendencies that are prone to getting him in trouble from time to time, that's why I'd like for him to hire an OC that isn't a pity hire nut hugging sycophant. Someone that brings ANYTHING of value. Because it sure as shit hasn't been Matt Nagy the last couple years.
"I'm going to continue to get mad at an OC for not overriding the HC with the best resume in football..."

In what world do you think there's a scenario where ANY OC shows up in KC and starts telling Andy Reid what to do?

You're barking up the wrong tree because he's an easier target. It's no different than blaming Kadarius Toney for balls that Mahomes refused to throw last year.

Someone being generally great doesn't make them beyond reproach.

To whatever extent you MUST extract a pound of flesh from someone here, Andy Reid is the guy you have to get it from. This isn't on Matt Nagy.
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Old 09-24-2024, 01:58 PM   #467
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Can I offer you two 1's for Rashawn Slater? That deal get done?
Shit he's starting to look injury prone.

I was really hoping that Dion Dawkins wasn't a lying sack of ass and Buffalo had really cut him. Woulda signed him before he got out of their building.
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Old 09-24-2024, 01:58 PM   #468
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Can I offer you two 1's for Rashawn Slater? That deal get done?
Jim Harbaugh is a crazy person so...probably not.
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Old 09-24-2024, 01:59 PM   #469
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I mean we really don't know that. Mahomes loves the guy.

That's maybe what is frustrating, the mystery of what Nagy does or doesn't do.

But I gotta tell ya, 2 out of 3 playoff seasons in Chicago with Trubisky is looking better and better by the week. That franchise is less than.
I couldn't give any less of a **** if Mahomes loves the guy. Peyton Manning loved Adam Gase. Aaron Rodgers loves Nathaniel Hackett. In fact, it makes me pretty ****ing leery when I hear that nonsense.
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Old 09-24-2024, 02:06 PM   #470
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"I'm going to continue to get mad at an OC for not overriding the HC with the best resume in football..."

In what world do you think there's a scenario where ANY OC shows up in KC and starts telling Andy Reid what to do?

You're barking up the wrong tree because he's an easier target. It's no different than blaming Kadarius Toney for balls that Mahomes refused to throw last year.

Someone being generally great doesn't make them beyond reproach.

To whatever extent you MUST extract a pound of flesh from someone here, Andy Reid is the guy you have to get it from. This isn't on Matt Nagy.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes need to fix their shit. The difference is they've earned the benefit of the doubt that I believe they will.

Nagy has done absolutely nothing to earn the same good will and from where I'm sitting his stench is permeating the offense right now, and I ain't the only one.
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Old 09-24-2024, 02:11 PM   #471
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Yeah I’m watching the Bengals game. They didn’t exactly leave Kingsley out to die. They helped him quite a bit.

They ran the ball more than they threw the ball, they got rid of the ball quickly, had a few plays where Rice was actually standing in Trey’s way blocking the outside (this actually slowed him a step believe it or not), had Thuney roll to him a few times and constantly had Pacheco running to Trey’s outside shoulder on the edge.

One of the times Kingsley got beat before he was benched was when Pacheco went to his side and Trey beat him inside. The holding the next play pretty much sealed the deal, but Mahomes backpedaled and rolled out (Kelce play that was nullified).

They tried to help Kingsley
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Old 09-24-2024, 02:14 PM   #472
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Yeah I’m watching the Bengals game. They didn’t exactly leave Kingsley out to die. They helped him quite a bit.
Better you than me.

I don't have the heart to watch that one again.

The best thing that can be said about the offense against Atlanta is that it looked better than the offense against Cincy. That game was just ghastly.

I watched it in person and the broadcast once. That's all I've got in me.
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Sooo what you're saying is they essentially had Rashee Rice (pfft) get in his way a couple times....

Yeah, the Commanders did all of the above AND had their second tight end constantly chipping. Because Hendrickson is the only difference maker they have left on that defense.
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Sooo what you're saying is they essentially had Rashee Rice (pfft) get in his way a couple times....

Yeah, the Commanders did all of the above AND had their second tight end constantly chipping. Because Hendrickson is the only difference maker they have left on that defense.
Just so I'm clear here.

You believe it's Matt Nagy that is the reason those things didn't happen?
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Just so I'm clear here.

You believe it's Matt Nagy that is the reason those things didn't happen?
No. It's the entire offensive staff failing from Reid on down.
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No. It's the entire offensive staff failing from Reid on down.
But replacing Matt Nagy will solve that?

Or is this just bitching for the sake of bitching?
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Solve it? Absolutely not, but I think a better OC mitigates some of these trends and we can do far better than a pity hire flame out. Maybe I'm wrong and Reid will just replace him with another sycophant. (Looking right at Doug Pederson)
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Andy isn’t changing his philosophy. And some new young coordinator sure as shit isn’t coming in here telling him what to do
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