Football Jordan Love holding out - Page 4

**wazu** · 07-22-2024, 08:30 AM

Jordan Love will not practice until he has a new deal, Brian Gutekunst says. Love’s camp informed Packers of that decision Saturday.

Gutekunst says a deal could get done in the coming days, but you never know. Says big deals take time.

“I feel we’re close.” pic.twitter.com/yeW5ScbUMm
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) July 22, 2024

**Rain Man** · 07-22-2024, 11:00 AM

Don Majkowski should've done this.

FloridaMan88 · 07-22-2024, 11:06 AM

Packers seem to always have contract drama with their QB... guess that's the price to pay for having 30+ years of franchise-caliber QB's.

Megatron96 · 07-22-2024, 11:19 AM

Is this his contract year? I wouldn't pay him top QB $$$ yet. I have to see more than just 8 good games, especially after his less-than-stellar performance vs. SF in the playoffs. Maybe some kind of 2-year/$70M extension or whatever they're handing out these days, but that would be about it.

Megatron96 · 07-22-2024, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Packers seem to always have contract drama with their QB... guess that's the price to pay for having 30+ years of franchise-caliber QB's.

I think maybe they're just not very pro-active. They always seem to get caught with their pants down when it comes to QBs.

Wisconsin_Chief · 07-22-2024, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Packers seem to always have contract drama with their QB... guess that's the price to pay for having 30+ years of franchise-caliber QB's.

The problem is they never want to pay them market value. They refuse to do so for most positions, QB is the one exception, but they always do it begrudgingly while creating bad vibes in the process. Although, all indications are the Love negotiations have been friendly and it will get done soon.

I despise the Packers organization, but Love is actually a really good dude and QB. He's nothing like Favre and Rodgers. There is no diva in him whatsoever.

crispystl · 07-22-2024, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Trade them Carson Wentz for a 3rd and let Love sit and spin.

It would be amazing if Andy could get Wentz looking like his old self in the preseason games. It would be so nice to trade that bastard for some more draft capital.

**wazu** · 07-22-2024, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl

It would be amazing if Andy could get Wentz looking like his old self in the preseason games. It would be so nice to trade that bastard for some more draft capital.

I like Wentz as our back-up. Would need to be some pretty strong draft capital to want to go into the season effectively not even having one.

crispystl · 07-22-2024, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

I like Wentz as our back-up. Would need to be some pretty strong draft capital to want to go into the season effectively not even having one.

If we could get legit draft capital out of Wentz, I'd trust Andy to find someone else to come in. Dude has us winning games with the corpse of Matt Moore.

WhawhaWhat · 07-22-2024, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

I like Wentz as our back-up. Would need to be some pretty strong draft capital to want to go into the season effectively not even having one.

If Wentz has to come in and play for any length of time, the season is probably ****ed anyway. If they can pawn him off and they have to re-sign Blaine Gabbert, then so be it.

DRM08 · 07-22-2024, 12:57 PM

It doesn't make sense for Jordan Love to risk injury until they give him more financial security. That said, I am curious to see how the contract turns out for him.

Chief Roundup · 07-22-2024, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

I hate it when players hold out. They sign their contracts then refuse to honor them. Teams can't refuse to honor their contracts with players, but players can refuse to honor their contracts with the teams.

Teams don't honor contracts all the time. They cut players or do things to where a player misses out on some incentives.

Al Bundy · 07-22-2024, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

I hate it when players hold out. They sign their contracts then refuse to honor them. Teams can't refuse to honor their contracts with players, but players can refuse to honor their contracts with the teams.

Teams do it every year. They sit players to avoid said player from making their incentives.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-22-2024, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Is this his contract year? I wouldn't pay him top QB $$$ yet. I have to see more than just 8 good games, especially after his less-than-stellar performance vs. SF in the playoffs. Maybe some kind of 2-year/$70M extension or whatever they're handing out these days, but that would be about it.

When you look at contracts like burrow and herbert and mahomes, teams basically use the first year of the contract to absorb a huge cash bonus. It seems like most of these deals are dirt cheap the first 1-2 years then explode up. So a contract extension kind of accomplishes that anyway except that Jordan love has financial security and green bay doesn't risk losing him.

Green bay actually may take a bit of a discount because there's some uncertainty. If love has a halfway decent year his value will explode. Considering how hard it is to find qbs these days it's probably a risk worth taking because if they wait too long it could be very costly next off-season

SHOWTIME · 07-22-2024, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Love was close to Lamar in uncatchable passes

It will be interesting to see how Love does now that he has "shown improvement." Personally, I wouldn't give any QB a new contract unless they put together two solid seasons and show big improvement. Otherwise, it'll be Daniel Jones all over again.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-22-2024, 01:32 PM

That being said, I do wonder if Jordan love is a product of how defenses adjusted to the chiefs last year. Defenses geared up for our dink and dunk. And the most successful qbs were the ones willing to just chuck shit up for WRs to get. Dak, stroud, love, etc.... Obviously we beat that because mahomes is mahomes (but oh by the way, we are prioritizing vertical threats again). But it makes me wonder if some of these qbs will see some regression. Jordan love throws off his backfoot way more often than I'd like. And we're not talking about mahomes off platform, we're talking about lots of instances of somehow sneaking in tight passes with less zip. And I don't know how much of that is luck or just having a knack for it.

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