2024's Red zone failures

[scho63]

Boy, we sure have sucked balls in the redzone this year.

Thought Kareem and Dhop would help but last game we were 1 of 5 and this year we are at the bottom of the bottom third.

Can blame some on tackles but down inside the 20 you aren't holding the ball for very long.

I think the play calling has been poor and it seems our formations are so recognizable.

The inside shuffle pass has lost its luster.

We seem to have forgotten the jet sweep or quick slants.

I don't think we have had too many penalties inside the 20 but don't have the stats.

Who gets the blame here?

[philfree]

Seemed like penalties and sacks took us out of scoring position against the Raiders. We lost like 30 yards on at least two possessions once we got into scoring position. Abominable!

[BWillie]

Run the football and don't be afraid to go for it on 4th down.

We run the ball more between the 20s than we do in the red zone.

[Megatron96]

Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.

[Why Not?]

I’d be good with the shovel pass to the TE taking a vacation for a few years. Seems to have been figured out.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’d be good with the shovel pass to the TE taking a vacation for a few years. Seems to have been figured out.

[Gary Cooper]

The easiest way to score in the red zone is to run the ball.

That said, in 2022 they were #2 in red zone efficiency. Don't know if they ran more, whether it's because the shovel pass worked better then, or if it's just Mahomes playing better.

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’d be good with the shovel pass to the TE taking a vacation for a few years. Seems to have been figured out.

Not just a RZ issue however the WR/TE naked screen pass has been getting blown up. LV/DEN both have good lines which impacted the RZ performance however CAR blew up our line as well. I think it's a symptom of the OL more than anything else. Lately, there's been a penalty or sack that puts the team behind the 8 ball almost immediately. And Kelce isn't what he once was.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Not to pile on Mahomes, but he did flat miss DHop in the EZ once. I think it's a combination of factors, such as the OT issues, Mahomes inaccurate passes (missed Travis wide open vs. DEN), some whiffed blocks by the IOL, penalties (both real and fraudulent), as well as some play-calling gaffes mixed in.

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

[O.city]

Run the ball or throw it on time.

[Easy 6]

We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

We tried a quick slant to DHop in the RZ, but the corner shifted inside at the last second and took away his leverage

That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

That was a good play by the CB, I wonder if the Chiefs tipped their hand or he just read the play well. I don't think the Chiefs run the fade route very often and that would have been a great time to change the route given the pre-snap CB shift.

Yep, that one little shift wrecked the whole damn play

[Bearcat]

It's one of those low sample size stats that don't mean a ton... Mahomes hits a few passes and they at least go from bottom 3rd to the top half.

Nothing with that shovel pass makes sense at this point besides some big reach that they keep going to that well so other teams will prep for it, just to do some fake shovel play in the playoffs or just setup looks for later...

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I really don't understand why we just won't RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Especially this week, with Hunt AND Pacheco.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Then play-action pass some in there. Slow the pass rush down. Help your terrible offensive tackles.

RUN THE ****ING BALL.

Andy doesn't love running the ball. I'm not counting shovel passes or WR reverses as runs. It's just not in his mindset.