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Old 12-29-2022, 09:00 AM   #1426
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Old 12-29-2022, 09:03 AM   #1427
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I don't dislike Derek Carr other than him being a member of the Raiders.

So I feel bad about thinking this is hilarious.

McDaniels has shown us what a fraud he is. As every Patriots coaching tree disciple has, save for the one who got fired in ridiculous fashion (Flores).

Why doesn't the NFL believe it when this coaching tree shows what a joke it is?

Mangini
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on and on and on it goes.

Agreed….but is Vrabel considered a bb disciple?
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Old 12-29-2022, 09:04 AM   #1428
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This is such a break for us. I really thought that game at LV would be really tough but now it should be much easier. Derek Carr isn’t great but he’s capable of some big games especially with Adams, Renfrow and Waller all healthy.
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Old 12-29-2022, 09:15 AM   #1430
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Strengths

Intelligent with ability to decipher defenses

Adequate size and arm strength

Makes good decisions from RPO looks

Comfortable throwing from true play-action and rollouts

Above-average move accuracy

Good recognition to wait for throwing lanes to clear

Sound footwork and mechanics from the pocket

Classic over-the-top release

Ball comes out of his hands with clean, tight spiral

Above-average touch throwing to all three levels

Good back shoulder passer

Competitive open-field runner as scrambler

Willing to put his head down and find tough yards to secure first downs.


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Became antsy and unsure due to excessive pressure

Drops eyes and loses some poise when pressure mounts

Will void and run rather than sliding and scanning from pocket

Needs to throw with better anticipation

Unlikely to beat defenses with arm talent alone

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Agreed….but is Vrabel considered a bb disciple?
Didn't he also work with Reid?
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Agreed….but is Vrabel considered a bb disciple?
holy **** what?

he only spent his entire ****ing career there

what's the first thing he did in TEN?

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Old 12-29-2022, 09:21 AM   #1434
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Agreed….but is Vrabel considered a bb disciple?
He played there, but was never a coach under Belichick. He coached under Crennel in Houston, though, so I guess you could SORT OF put him in the Belichick tree.

But he was a guy that was viewed as a clear future coach at every stop (Pittsburgh, New England, Kansas City) as a player, so he's an anomoly to me.
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Mark Davis is the problem in Vegas. Raiders won't ever get anything more than mediocre under his leadership. Kudos to Mark for getting a new stadium, but I figure the league is likely looking for a way to shove him out of ownership.
Between Davis, McDaniels, and Carr the Raiders got rid of the least of the problems. Mark Davis is an embarrassment to the legacy of his father. McDaniels has been rumored to have said he can turn any HS QB into an All Pro. He has been spoiled by Brady and that has gone to his head. He will fail in LV (as the track record of Belechick coaches will prove).

They will most likely make a run at Brady who is washed up and is getting by on name alone. He might finish with a losing record on a talented TB team while playing in the awful NFCS. If he comes to LV he won’t be the savior that management thinks he will be. All he will do is push out the Raiders chances of winning anything significant for years.
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I am really surprised at how Derek Carr turned out. He throws a nice ball and seemed to have the tools. Just never got to the next level.
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miserable every time I see his name pop up in a news article and nowhere is it mentioned he's dead
So much irony........ Brady (shiver) is the GOAT and to be universally despised.

Is the whole Carr situation the lack of money in LV? It always seems there are rumors about finances around "son of Greasy"
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I am really surprised at how Derek Carr turned out. He throws a nice ball and seemed to have the tools. Just never got to the next level.
Not a perfect QB, BUT in the right environment he'd be more successful
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Got no reason to hate Derek Carr other than being a raider. Seems like a genuinely good dude, shitty QB. Feel bad for him but also superstoked it's happening you the raiders. why is nobody surprised McDaniels hands the ball off to an ex Patriots QB.

Feels like McDaniels is lobbing Carr directly under the bus so he can ride the narrative that the issues are all about the QB.
I think he is a decent dude, but I'm not sure I'd call him "shitty". I mean, if I was a Raider fan I'd probably be pissed and want him gone. Especially with Herbert and Mohomes BOTH in division.

But if we're being honest, I think he's about average. Meaning they can do a ****load worse. I mean objectively I think I'd rather have him than Alex. And I'm pretty soft on Alex.

Just back of the napkin, here's where I'd rank him.

Obviously below
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Lamar Unless he is consistently injured moving forward
Hurts
Cousins It's probably time to acknowledge Cousins is better

About the same as
Tua - but there is a real argument that he's better
Mike White (ish) I think he'll end up being better than White
Trevor Lawrence At least right now they're the same dude.
Tannehill
Davis Mills Carr is probably better but it's hard to tell.
Dak
Daniel Jones
Garroppolo/Purdy
Geno - If Geno proves this isn't a flash in the pan, Geno is better. If not Carr is better.
Stafford Dude looks done,. If he gets back to form hes better if not he's worse
Kyler provided he doesn't implode
Goff
Rodgers


Better than
Mac/Zappe
Zach Wilson (LOL That dude is shit)
EmbaRuss (**** Donk Forever LOL)
Tyler Huntley
Trubisky LOL
Pickett
Watson - At least right now. Maybe not if he gets going... But yeah, that's ugly
Brissett
Matt Ryan/Foles/Sam Enigher
Jeff Driskel
Heineke/Wentz
Baker
Fields
Brady
Darnold
Dalton/Hill
Mariota

Mother****er, that's a lot of dudes that Carr is better than, and that isn't even including salary and shit. For instance, I'd probably rather have Carr than Kyler.

I mean, they might get Mahomes, but they might also get Zach Wilson

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I don't dislike Derek Carr other than him being a member of the Raiders.

So I feel bad about thinking this is hilarious.

McDaniels has shown us what a fraud he is. As every Patriots coaching tree disciple has, save for the one who got fired in ridiculous fashion (Flores).

Why doesn't the NFL believe it when this coaching tree shows what a joke it is?

Mangini
Crennel
BoB
McDaniels
Petricia
Judge

on and on and on it goes.
Man, Flores gettting fired and him being a cut and paste ex-Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

I will not refute that his firing was a clown show. But that dude was also a clown show with what he did to Tua. I've been consistent from the first time he pulled Tua for Fitzmagic when the game got tight. That is absolutely ridiculous and completely unacceptable in 2021. Moreover, I would bet the farm that if given the chance, he was going to fail. Miserably. Like every other ex-Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag.
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I am really surprised at how Derek Carr turned out. He throws a nice ball and seemed to have the tools. Just never got to the next level.
I think it's all between his ears. If he's feeling himself and seeing the field, he's really ****ing good.

If he's not feeling it, doesn't have the confidence, or isn't seeing the field, he's going to **** it up.

He's the definition of hot/cold.
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