Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?

[Red Dawg]

I for one do. We have seen them rise up and shut the critics up enough to not lose faith. It was ugly and surprising for sure but the SB magnifies everything for some reason. Mahomes for sure is no quitter and neither is Veach and Andy. We will recover and be right back in the AFCCG for another shot.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by RunKC

They just need talent man. That’s a major part of this.

But yes I would love to see someone Sark’s Texas offensive staff here. I watch that team and their play designs are so goddamn good. We even copied a couple that Worthy ran when he was there

On paper, there are few more talented teams than KC. Before the season, many posters thought the 2024 Chiefs would be the most stacked roster we've ever had top to bottom. It won't be easy to put a more talented group together. Just need another draft with some home runs.

Also, we were at full health going into the playoffs. Rice was hurt, but they made many moves to replace him bringing in Hopkins and Juju. No major injuries down the stretch to key players. It's hard to be that lucky every year with injuries. Look what happened with the Lions or Packers who lost important pieces going into the playoffs.

[Hammock Parties]

gUyS We aRe So EmbRassan

The Kansas City Chiefs have a point differential per game played of 5.43 in the playoffs since 2018.

The San Francisco 49ers had a point differential per game played of 9.18 in the playoffs between the 1979 and 1989 seasons.

The New England Patriots had a point differential per game played of 6.37 in the playoffs between the 2001 and 2019 seasons.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

No it's not.

You have risen your expectations up so high that you're setting yourself up for disappointment. The likelihood of winning SB's consistently, even with Patrick Mahomes at QB, is so unlikely that you have set yourself up for sadness no matter what.

If you really are at that point where you're disappointed we don't win a ring every year, I don't know how to help you.

If you're not disappointed that we didn't win a ring WHEN WE'RE PLAYING IN THE SUPER BOWL, what are you even doing?

And you should be doubly disappointed if you made it all the way to the Super Bowl and played a perfectly beatable team, but lost due in large part to the head coach making the same dumb mistakes he's made in the same spot before. A gameplan that just assumes everything will be OK with the offensive line and then a lot of blank stares at the field when that doesn't prove to be the case.

The issue isn't that we lost. If we lost to the Bills at the last minute, sucks, but it wasn't our year. If we lost a close game to the Eagles, same. Oh well. There's a reason nobody's 3peated.

The problem is HOW we lost. Never even having a chance? Getting embarrassed AGAIN because Andy didn't learn anything from the first time? That shouldn't be OK with anybody.

[JohnnyV13]

Oh man, the Chiefs went to three straight Super Bowls and went 2-1. Their regular season record was 15-2. What punters. I've totally lost faith in them given that terrible track record.

Seriously.

3-Peat or BUST!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

If you want to break it down even further:

1st 8 years of Mahomes: Chiefs +5.43
1st 8 years of Montana: Niners +1.4
1st 8 years of Brady: Pats +6.53

EMBARRASSING THO

[FloridaMan88]

No middle ground sanity on this board as usual.

It’s either “blow everything up” or “all is well, change nothing”.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

They just need talent man. That’s a major part of this.

But yes I would love to see someone Sark’s Texas offensive staff here. I watch that team and their play designs are so goddamn good. We even copied a couple that Worthy ran when he was there

Andy was at the cutting edge of college spread in the NFL 8 years ago.


I just think we need some new blood to get his creativity going.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Andy was at the cutting edge of college spread in the NFL 8 years ago.


I just think we need some new blood to get his creativity going.

if only he was more creative he could be 25-0 instead of 23-2

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

if only he was more creative he could be 25-0 instead of 23-2

We are winning games with defense and Mahomes freelancing now and then late or on 3rd down.


Offensive play calling has not been special last 2 years.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BigRock

If you're not disappointed that we didn't win a ring WHEN WE'RE PLAYING IN THE SUPER BOWL, what are you even doing?

And you should be doubly disappointed if you made it all the way to the Super Bowl and played a perfectly beatable team, but lost due in large part to the head coach making the same dumb mistakes he's made in the same spot before. A gameplan that just assumes everything will be OK with the offensive line and then a lot of blank stares at the field when that doesn't prove to be the case.

The issue isn't that we lost. If we lost to the Bills at the last minute, sucks, but it wasn't our year. If we lost a close game to the Eagles, same. Oh well. There's a reason nobody's 3peated.

The problem is HOW we lost. Never even having a chance? Getting embarrassed AGAIN because Andy didn't learn anything from the first time? That shouldn't be OK with anybody.

You said it's no longer time to be happy about being *just* successful. It's ring or bust every single year. You're setting yourself up for disappointment, dude.

We got blown out in the Super Bowl. Okay. What do we still have? Mahomes and Andy Reid? Okay then I think we're in a pretty damn good spot.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Actually, it is whining. It's loser shit.

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Absolutely

But I do think Andy Heck needs to go

According to recent discussions, some of the top available offensive line coaches include Conor Riley (known for his strong track record in college football), Mike Bloomgren (previously at Stanford with a reputation for developing elite offensive linemen), and Daryl Agpalsa (recognized for his ability to develop players even at smaller schools).

OR.... We could pick off Jeff Stoutland from the Eagles and promote him to assistant HC / OL coach

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

No middle ground sanity on this board as usual.

It’s either “blow everything up” or “all is well, change nothing”.

I guess the point is, do you still trust who we have on the team to get us back to that point?

Considering their track record, I'm willing to believe they'll figure it out. That's not "change nothing", that's more me saying "let's sit back and see how the offseason goes first."

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

Dude, I'm sorry, a Super Bowl appearance is not a wasted season. This is absurd.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We have not seen a maxed out Mahomes.


Playing as a don't make a mistake game manager is not the top end of what he can do.

I think we've definitely seen the maxxed out Mahomes. He is somewhat reliant on needing to use his fast twitch quickness to get out of trouble. He's going to be moving into his 30s. We aren't ever going to see A+ Mahomes ever again. Combine this defense of the last two years with any of our elite offenses and we roll.