Mario Williams agrees to contract with Texans, will go #1 overall...

[jAZ]

ESPN just reported this "breaking" news. I didn't see a thread, sorry if it's a dupe.

[SCTrojan]

I normally stay out of threads about USC players because of my obvious bias. But the simple reason that Reggie Bush did not get 20 + carries regularly was that USC didn't need him to do that to win football games. When you have Leinart handing off to White, throwing to Mike Williams, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith and Dominique Byrd, you don't need one guy to carry the load to be effective. The last three seasons bear that philosophy out.

As for the Texans move of drafting Mario Williams ahead of Reggie or Vince Young, for that matter, I think it's a big gamble at best. You can count on one hand the number of defensive ends that have changed the fortunes of a franchise. There are many more RBs and QBs who have done that.

The draft is what it is - the hope that the potential you see translates to actual production on the field for a prolonged period of time. I've never seen Williams play, but I think Houston could have traded down and still picked him. IMO, the bottom line is the only way this works out for them is if Williams is a Reggie White-like transcendent player and Reggie Bush and Vince Young turn out to be only so-so players. That's an awful big risk to take with the first pick no matter what their motivation for taking it.

[CupidStunt]

Kudos to Houston for having the balls to ignore public and fan opinion and doing what they think is the smart thing.

As Spielman said, you pay the people in your building to make decisions, not the fans and the public and the media.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by SCTrojan

I normally stay out of threads about USC players because of my obvious bias. But the simple reason that Reggie Bush did not get 20 + carries regularly was that USC didn't need him to do that to win football games. When you have Leinart handing off to White, throwing to Mike Williams, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith and Dominique Byrd, you don't need one guy to carry the load to be effective. The last three seasons bear that philosophy out.

As for the Texans move of drafting Mario Williams ahead of Reggie or Vince Young, for that matter, I think it's a big gamble at best. You can count on one hand the number of defensive ends that have changed the fortunes of a franchise. There are many more RBs and QBs who have done that.

The draft is what it is - the hope that the potential you see translates to actual production on the field for a prolonged period of time. I've never seen Williams play, but I think Houston could have traded down and still picked him. IMO, the bottom line is the only way this works out for them is if Williams is a Reggie White-like transcendent player and Reggie Bush and Vince Young turn out to be only so-so players. That's an awful big risk to take with the first pick no matter what their motivation for taking it.

Mike Williams hasn't played on the team in almost 3 years. The big gamble would have been to spend that much on an unproven RB that doesn't carry the ball more than 15 times a game against college/highschool talent. Reggie Bush is going to be a great player, and so is MArio Williams. Bottom line....Reggie Bush isn't going to stop Peyton Manning.....he doesn't even have a chance...Mario Williams does.

[nychief]

okay, I've slept on this is and.... the texans have still made a mistake.

[FAX]

I had hoped that Reggie Bush would run in fast circles around Manning, Mr. Garcia Bronco. Like the Flash used to do in order to cause a whirlwind effect.

This would disorient Manning and make little balloon question marks pop out of his head.

FAX

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by FAX

I had hoped that Reggie Bush would run in fast circles around Manning, Mr. Garcia Bronco. Like the Flash used to do in order to cause a whirlwind effect.

This would disorient Manning and make little balloon question marks pop out of his head.

FAX

LOL...yes and cause a tornado that snatches Harrison from his route.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by nychief

okay, I've slept on this is and.... the texans have still made a mistake.

At this moment, many are outside Reliant Stadium showing thier outrage. I just drove past the stadium on my way to Starbucks and it wasn't pretty.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by TEX

At this moment, many are outside Reliant Stadium showing thier outrage. I just drove past the stadium on my way to Starbucks and it wasn't pretty.

Seriously, Mr. TEX?

FAX

[oldandslow]

The Texans are idiots, plain and simple....

If you don't want R.Bush you trade out of the pick and take the OL that will save Carr's life...

M. Williams was up and down at NC State. He may become Neil Smith. But you sure as hell don't trade Neil Smith for Gale Sayers. EVER!!!

[nychief]

Originally Posted by oldandslow

The Texans are idiots, plain and simple....

If you don't want R.Bush you trade out of the pick and take the OL that will save Carr's life...

M. Williams was up and down at NC State. He may become Neil Smith. But you sure as hell don't trade Neil Smith for Gale Sayers. EVER!!!

Why didn't they trade out?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by FAX

Seriously, Mr. TEX?

FAX

Yep. The draft party starts at 10:00AM and they're not letting anyone in with ANTI-TEXAN signs, so they're all standing around on Kirby Drive across the street. The news crews are there as well so I wouldn't be too shocked if the rest of the country sees this at some point. The crowd isn't out of control or anything, but some ruined thier jersey's by painting a red circle with a line through it in protest. If I had to guess at the numbers, I'd say about 75-100 or so people and Starbuck's is BOOMING because of it.

The best sign I saw read as follows:

"No Bush, No Young, the TEXANS are fuckING DUMB! "

[FAX]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. The draft party starts at 10:00AM and they're not letting anyone in with ANTI-TEXAN signs, so they're all standing around on Kirby Drive across the street. The news crews are there as well so I wouldn't be too shocked if the rest of the country sees this at some point. The crowd isn't out of control or anything, but some ruined thier jersey's by painting a red circle with a line through it in protest. If I had to guess at the numbers, I'd say about 75-100 or so people and Starbuck's is BOOMING because of it.

Unbelievable. Well, I'm glad that the Texas fans are so involved with their team. I think this is amazing, really.

Protesting a draft pick. God.

FAX

[nychief]

Originally Posted by FAX

Protesting a draft pick. God.

Protest a war? NEVER. Protest a pituitary case becoming a millionarie? ALWAYS.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by FAX

Unbelievable. Well, I'm glad that the Texas fans are so involved with their team. I think this is amazing, really.

Protesting a draft pick. God.

FAX

Me too, but you have to remember that Vince Young played HS ball about 5 miles from Reliant Stadium and wone a HS State Championship there and then went on to UT and did what he did there. The city had finally been sold on Bush and had come to grips with the fact that the TEXANS wold not be drafting thier favorite son, so not getting either one of them is not sitting too well with some.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by oldandslow

The Texans are idiots, plain and simple....

If you don't want R.Bush you trade out of the pick and take the OL that will save Carr's life...

M. Williams was up and down at NC State. He may become Neil Smith. But you sure as hell don't trade Neil Smith for Gale Sayers. EVER!!!

They could have drafted D'Brick number one and they would have been right to do it.