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Old 12-10-2017, 02:10 PM  
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Derek Carr ****ing sucks
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:10 PM   #1306
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Raiders fans should fly a banner, but I'm not sure they have the grammar.
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"We still ****ing suck"
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:11 PM   #1307
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.....going to be some crap years in Raiderland. '23 draft looks like a poor QB draft. FA QBs to be had are terrible.
This is a cap related move. 33mil for a QB is bad enough, but if they don't cut/trade him after this year, then he has the leverage in negotiating a new contract at the market rate (north of 33 mil). So while Derek is a decent NFL QB, they don't think he's 33+ mil good.

Probably more needs in LV than can be filled in the draft in this coming year so its looks like a roster reset.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:11 PM   #1308
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Davante Adams decision to tie his future to Carr looks… unwise.

But at least he’s getting paid.
Dipshit Raiders may try and trade Carr and Adams as a package deal. Then waste the picks on busts.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:13 PM   #1309
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Dumb franchises do dumb things.

Like McBugel knows how to draft a QB. He drafted Tebow.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:17 PM   #1310
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Is there actually a scenario where LV gets in the playoffs?
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:20 PM   #1311
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Well, Andy Reid and the brain trust actually running the Chiefs do.

Oh, ok. Some of the posters here do as well.

Going to be some crap years in Raiderland. '23 draft looks like a poor QB draft. FA QBs to be had are terrible.

Hell, Stidham wasn't even the best backup QB the Raiders had in preseason. He just got the job because he was McD's guy.

49ers will roll. I'd be surprised if we score the rest of the year.
Um, lets not pretend Payton Manning or Joe Montana is being benched here. Carr is averaging 15-17 PPG isnt he? Carr wouldn't have done squat against the niners. He is ranked 31 at QBR and leads in INTs. I think some here cant get 2016 Carr out of their heads. Since the middle of last year, Carr has been mostly uninspiring and been carried by Jacobs when they do well. Even a mediocre QB this year could have won a handful of games and making the playoffs. Every loss minus one have been 1 score games where the offense has failed to score in entire halves. Carrs mechanics all year have gone to shit. His throws beyond 15 yards resemble punts or wounded ducks. Keeping him and paying him $30-$40 million next year would have been insanity.

Best for the Raiders to part ways, try to build a great defense while continuing to have a great running game and groom some QB while going with a bridge type QB for a year or 2.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:23 PM   #1312
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THey aren't making the playoffs. Once you hit that point, you want to pile up losses
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:23 PM   #1313
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Is there actually a scenario where LV gets in the playoffs?
yes, but it's built on top of the world's ricketiest house of cards it's not even worth worrying about. Even before this news about Carr.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:23 PM   #1314
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Dumb franchises do dumb things.

Like McBugel knows how to draft a QB. He drafted Tebow.
McBugel.



Damn, Bugel as HC was a terrible year in Raider history. Maybe only surpassed by Shell II.

Going to be at least two more years of this crap. McBugel will get next year as a pass due to starting over at QB.

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Old 12-28-2022, 02:23 PM   #1315
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Dumb franchises do dumb things.

Like McBugel knows how to draft a QB. He drafted Tebow.
Tebow has one more playoff win than Carr.

But yes, Tebow was a bad pick. Can you recall all the other picks that McBugel had? Several of which were on the 13 win teams and SB team maybe?


Fear not though, you can likely keep your screen name if the NFL turns into a flag football league as Carr is a great QB when wearing the red t-shirt
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:24 PM   #1316
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Um, lets not pretend Payton Manning or Joe Montana is being benched here. Carr is averaging 15-17 PPG isnt he? Carr wouldn't have done squat against the niners. He is ranked 31 at QBR and leads in INTs. I think some here cant get 2016 Carr out of their heads. Since the middle of last year, Carr has been mostly uninspiring and been carried by Jacobs when they do well. Even a mediocre QB this year could have won a handful of games and making the playoffs. Every loss minus one have been 1 score games where the offense has failed to score in entire halves. Carrs mechanics all year have gone to shit. His throws beyond 15 yards resemble punts or wounded ducks. Keeping him and paying him $30-$40 million next year would have been insanity.

Best for the Raiders to part ways, try to build a great defense while continuing to have a great running game and groom some QB while going with a bridge type QB for a year or 2.
Well, you'll be happy anyway. Enjoy watching Stidham as the Raiders QB for the next couple years.
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Old 12-28-2022, 02:25 PM   #1317
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Draft a new QB and let Stidham or (?) be a bridge QB. Some of the cap savings will help add to the defense. The Raiders do have weapons on offense that any QB would love to have.

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Greg Olson got more out of the Raiders offense than McDaniels.

Think about that.
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It’s amazing how Josh McDaniels ****ed them over. Derek Carr got this team in the playoffs without his HC for half the season last year. It’s not surprising that McDaniels comes in and does exactly what he did in Denver: set that franchise on fire
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Best for the Raiders to part ways, try to build a great defense while continuing to have a great running game and groom some QB while going with a bridge type QB for a year or 2.
I'll hold my breath waiting for this to happen. We haven't had a good defense in 20 years, let alone one resembling "great".
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