Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust

[penguinz]

BREAKING: USC QB Caleb Williams has DECLINED to medical examinations with teams at the Combine and did not sign off on having his medical records shared
with all teams.

Williams is believed to be the first combine invitee ever to decline an examination, per CBS. pic.twitter.com/ipHqfxNBYJ

— MLFootball (@_MLFootball) March 1, 2024

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Caleb is a rookie WB. Probably in most cases rookie QBs aren’t in the habit of independently calling TOs in critical moments. He had enough going on trying to get the play from the OC in his helmet with all that crowd noise, get his team the play, remember what the play actually entails, make sure his guys were lining up correctly, etc.

Also, these situations should’ve been game planned for weeks before they happen in a game, no? But obviously they weren’t prepared at any level for that situation. And when it was obvious they weren’t prepared, it was on the HC to intervene and call the TO before too much time ran off the clock. That’s literally his job, isn’t it?

With the benefit of hindsight, sure, call the TO sooner rather than later. But that's knowing how things actually worked out.

It would have actually been better to have gotten the play off, picked up 8 or ten yards and then called TO. But once you call TO, you can no longer catch it in the middle of the field if you call TO.

I don't understand why people keep ignoring this.

The issue was they couldn't get lined up and get a play off, in my opinion.

Not that they should have quickly burned their last TO.

[RINGLEADER]

Eberflus had a decision to make at :32.

1. Call the timeout immediately after the sack and:

a. Get a quick first down and clock it to stop the clock before kicking a FG
b. Miss on the quick first down with an incomplete pass before kicking a FG
c. Come up short of the first down still in the field of play and run the FG team out quick

or...

2. Save the timeout and get a quick/fast play then call the TO.

Either is fine with the amount of time they had (around :14), but Caleb came to the line after the decision to go with option 2 above and sat there for seven seconds and then waited to go deep on a play that took more than seven seconds to develop.

Eberflus was not a good coach and should never have been kept around for this season with a new QB coming in but the charade that happened last night was almost entirely on Caleb.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

With the benefit of hindsight, sure, call the TO sooner rather than later. But that's knowing how things actually worked out.

It would have actually been better to have gotten the play off, picked up 8 or ten yards and then called TO. But once you call TO, you can no longer catch it in the middle of the field if you call TO.

I don't understand why people keep ignoring this.

The issue was they couldn't get lined up and get a play off, in my opinion.

Not that they should have quickly burned their last TO.

I addressed this in an earlier post. Once Eberflus saw how long it was taking for the offense to get lined up, he should've intervened and called the TO, at about :18 or so. Instead, he just stood there and watched the game slip away.

I mean, yeah, Caleb assumes some of the blame for not taking things into his own hands and calling the TO, but he's a rook and a child comparatively to Eberflus. And ultimately, time management is the responsibility of the HC, correct?

[FloridaMan88]

Looks like the coaching change didn’t help Caleb much yesterday…

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Looks like the coaching change didn’t help Caleb much yesterday…

Well, when this OC is unceremoniously not retained that will be 2 coaches shitcanned in year 1. Hell of a start.

[RunKC]

Old friend Ryan Poles has been really really bad in Chicago.

He also kept Eberflus which was insane

Ryan Poles dumped:
- David Montgomery
- Darnell Mooney
- Roquan Smith
- James Daniels

Ryan Poles replaced them with:
- D’Andre Swift
- old Keenan Allen
- Tremaine Edmunds
- Nate Davis

TAKE A ****ING BOW!!!

— Larski (Hire Ben Johnson) (@GuruKevlar) December 8, 2024

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Old friend Ryan Poles has been really really bad in Chicago.

He also kept Eberflus which was insane

Ryan Poles dumped:
- David Montgomery
- Darnell Mooney
- Roquan Smith
- James Daniels

Ryan Poles replaced them with:
- D’Andre Swift
- old Keenan Allen
- Tremaine Edmunds
- Nate Davis

TAKE A ****ING BOW!!!

— Larski (Hire Ben Johnson) (@GuruKevlar) December 8, 2024

Really bad? The haul he got from Carolina was one of the best trades this century. That alone makes that statement utterly ridiculous imo

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Old friend Ryan Poles has been really really bad in Chicago.

He also kept Eberflus which was insane

Ryan Poles dumped:
- David Montgomery
- Darnell Mooney
- Roquan Smith
- James Daniels

Ryan Poles replaced them with:
- D’Andre Swift
- old Keenan Allen
- Tremaine Edmunds
- Nate Davis

TAKE A ****ING BOW!!!

— Larski (Hire Ben Johnson) (@GuruKevlar) December 8, 2024

That’s a little disingenuous though. It leaves out that they also got guys like dj moore and Montez sweat on the cheap and added draft capital like Rome odunze and Caleb Williams (no matter what you may think of him, it was the consensus pick ). And they’ve done a really good job with the draft. This is a really good team minus the coach if they can ever get Caleb Williams to play to his potential.

And it looks more and more like he doesn’t have much pull on the coach. The McCaskeys are good ole boy network guys who trust dinosaur advisors like polian and acorsi more than the GM. In this case it’s trace Armstrong who represents both eberflus and Shane Waldron. And eberflus stayed on because the mccaskeys were too cheap to buy out his contract. It sounded like poles had to scream up and down to get rid of eberflus and Waldron even when the decision was obvious. In this case the majority of the blame has to do with shitty ownership

[chiefzilla1501]

Would also add that the bears have a pretty manageable cap. They play good defense and have way too many offensive skill players to be this bad. If they land Ben Johnson (which I expect McCaskey to do something dumb and walk away from a slam dunk) and they can fix Caleb Williams this is a legit good team.

[Rainbarrel]

According to long-time Chicago radio personality Dan McNeil, who hosts a podcast for Bet Rivers these days, the Bears have four candidates on their list to be their next head coach: Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Joe Brady, Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores, and former Tennessee Titans head coach Mike Vrabel. This also comes on the heels of a report from the Chicago Tribune's Brad Biggs that the team has "started talking to people behind the scenes, laying the groundwork for future discussions with candidates they want to be part of the process."

[Buehler445]

After that absolute ****fest with Tua that, IMO was criminally bad, why in the name of Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bag would you ever bring Flores in to coach your young QB?

[htismaqe]

Johnson, Brady, um...

Flores and Vrabel?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Johnson, Brady, um...

Flores and Vrabel?

I don't hate Vrabel for a young QB. He took a QB that Adam Gase thoroughly destroyed (not unlike what Flores was doing to Tua), and revived his career.

That doesn't necessarily indicate he'd be good for a young developing QB, but it's better than Flores' record. The whole Tua starts and hands it off until the game gets close then we're bringing in Fitzpatrick was criminal. Should have ended his career.

[TribalElder]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

According to long-time Chicago radio personality Dan McNeil, who hosts a podcast for Bet Rivers these days, the Bears have four candidates on their list to be their next head coach: Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Joe Brady, Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores, and former Tennessee Titans head coach Mike Vrabel. This also comes on the heels of a report from the Chicago Tribune's Brad Biggs that the team has "started talking to people behind the scenes, laying the groundwork for future discussions with candidates they want to be part of the process."

I love that they are looking at the bills and lions OC's

nothing ****s with a playoff team like your OC interviewing for an HC job and then coming back and trying to be OC

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don't hate Vrabel for a young QB. He took a QB that Adam Gase thoroughly destroyed (not unlike what Flores was doing to Tua), and revived his career.

That doesn't necessarily indicate he'd be good for a young developing QB, but it's better than Flores' record. The whole Tua starts and hands it off until the game gets close then we're bringing in Fitzpatrick was criminal. Should have ended his career.

Vrabel is a Patriot Way meat head. He sucks by definition.