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Old 12-15-2024, 08:06 PM  
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What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?
I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:24 AM   #106
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He’s overthinking everything, including the deep ball. By the time he pulls the trigger, he’s overcompensating on the deep balls by overthrowing.

He’s going to “flip the switch” once Humphries helps solidify the left side of the OL, Hollywood provides another trustworthy option at all 3 levels and he’s able to get the offense normalized more.

Everything’s been moving pieces all season

Lost Hollywood right away when it they were absolutely building some good chemistry
The revolving horror that has been our LT position (bleeds into EVERYTHING ELSE) including many games where the LT play was so bad a blocking dummy would have literally had the same results.
I’m sure him essentially hurting Rice for the year still weighs on him
2 babies
Pacheco getting hurt
Taylor swift distractions
Tough schedule
Kelce hitting a wall

Even without all of that, passes over 25 yards in the air have the lowest completion % league wide

Hopefully, the ankle didn’t turn into a mango this morning and the final version of this offense is coming together when it actually matters. Pat will settle in and get us the ring.
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:24 AM   #107
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Well... at least our quarterback doesn't show up to games dressed like 80s movie theater carpet.


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Old 12-16-2024, 10:26 AM   #108
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Well... at least our quarterback doesn't show up to games dressed like 80s movie theater carpet.


That def deserves a rep but it says i have to spread it around so you're SoL punk!
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:31 AM   #109
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I thought that deep ball to Hopkins looked pretty good.

Also, Thuney played pretty well at LT.
I really think Hollywood makes a big difference. We’ve been taking really good shots at dhop and kelce deep but these guys aren’t going to create the separation Mahomes is used to. A guy who can compensate for passes that could be a touch overthrown is huge. One thing I miss about tyreek is how he could accelerate just enough to catch up to a throw. Worthy and hardman have elite straight line speed, but I just feel like Hollywood will help us a lot here
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:37 AM   #110
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I guess we're rolling out the Alex Smith defense of the starting QB now.
This.

Was everything around Mahomes that bad yesterday for him not to perform better?

Cleveland got some pressures, but the pass protection wasn’t bad.

Receivers were getting open downfield.
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:38 AM   #111
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We keep thinking it's "when this guy gets back or when we add that".

I look around the league and see other guys hitting deep balls to any ol fella and wonder "why can't we do that"?
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:40 AM   #112
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Nick Jacobs echoed what I was posting last night which is that it felt like the offense was trying to work on certain things whether they were there or not, despite having open underneath routes all afternoon, and it wrecked their rhythm in the second half.

It was truly like a boring Madden game to them in the way they approached 2nd half plays, and Mahomes paid a price for it.
I think a lot of went on in the 2nd half was frustration. They really want to get this passing game going and was a bit blinded my their obsession.
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Are the Chiefs offensive line and skill position players that much worse than Buffalo’s currently?
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:43 AM   #114
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:45 AM   #115
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We keep thinking it's "when this guy gets back or when we add that".

I look around the league and see other guys hitting deep balls to any ol fella and wonder "why can't we do that"?
You know the answer - Mahomes deep ball is simply off this year. He missed Kelce for a huge play yesterday, he misses Worthy it seems like once every game, etc.

Hopefully he gets it going by the playoffs similar to how our WRs stopped w the drops at the right time like last season.
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We keep thinking it's "when this guy gets back or when we add that".

I look around the league and see other guys hitting deep balls to any ol fella and wonder "why can't we do that"?
No I’ve said from the very beginning of the season that Hollywood was the key ingredient we’ve needed. Even after we lost rashee, I felt that way. I don’t want to say he has the yips but when it comes to downfield throwing he does. This was and still is mahomes’ biggest yip right now and much as I like worthy, I just don’t think he has the experience or chemistry to do what I think Hollywood can do with just a little time to gel.

Right now we need supporting talent to elevate mahomes. Once you’ve fixed him he can go back to him elevating others. But at this stage we have to go beyond just asking him to figure stuff out
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Old 12-16-2024, 10:52 AM   #117
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Ever hear the saying "for every hot chick out there there's a guy who's tired of banging her"?

Paraphrasing but it's close to the original.
Meh, it's been an issue this year without having to state all the obvious things like how nobody here is saying* we need a better QB or he's no longer the one QB you want on your team, etc.



*that's what GDTs are for
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Are the Chiefs offensive line and skill position players that much worse than Buffalo’s currently?
Their offensive line (particularly their tackles) are better than ours. I would give them the edge at the skill positions too. We don’t have a running back with big-play ability like Cook.
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Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason
Strouds is more to do with the league adjusting to him and Slowik's offense.
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