OMG: 1000 posts here I come...

[wutamess]

This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged and how many obstacles we have when it comes to succeeding in life.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch it with an open mind and maybe see that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

[Dave Lane]

Anyone who thinks there isn't a problem is basically easy to point out as having racist tendencies. We all are racist in one way or another. I am, Roger is we all have SOME pre-conceived notion of what we expect from another race / gender. If you aren't willing to admit that, THAT is the problem.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Anyone who thinks there isn't a problem is basically easy to point out as having racist tendencies. We all are racist in one way or another. I am, Roger is we all have SOME pre-conceived notion of what we expect from another race / gender. If you aren't willing to admit that, THAT is the problem.

Shit yeah, hear hear! It's about time people just admit that while they may not hate people, they do have pre-conceived notions and prejudices, and you don't have to be white to be an offender and you don't have to be black to be a victim of it.

I suspect that it is more prevalent among whites to ACT on their prejudice, but I really don't believe we have the market cornered on prejudice itself.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Don't know if you saw my earlier post about the convenient store and the barber shop incidents. I know this is not about ME per se, but I wonder if you would find those experiences I had satisfactory in helping me understand in some small way what it is like from your point of view?

Welcome to our world. The video give examples similar to yours... specifically, the woman that in line first to be seated but is overlooked and other patrons are seated before her.

You've experience first hand of what we go through our entire life. If we say something about it (you people tell us to do something about it) we're considered "Angry Black Man" then. I guess this is my way of "doing something about it" by bringing awareness.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Shit yeah, hear hear! It's about time people just admit that while they may not hate people, they do have pre-conceived notions and prejudices, and you don't have to be white to be an offender and you don't have to be black to be a victim of it.

I suspect that it is more prevalent among whites to ACT on their prejudice, but I really don't believe we have the market cornered on prejudice itself.

Never said you've had the market cornered but you did at one point. You do realize that W's have a LOT to do with racism and counter racism right? Can you maybe admit that much?

[Donger]

From what I can tell so far, this video is an attempt to get white people to get a sense of what it's like to be discriminated against because of their eye color. Correct so far?

[wutamess]

Another first hand experience...

We hire summer work usually family members of coworkers.
I suggested I had a cousin that'd be interested... immediately hey said it was limited to close family members.

It could be that I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. But the way it was said made me think in my mind that they don't know what to expect from my cousin and maybe he's a mistake waiting to happen. I left it alone because it wasn't a battle worth fighting but it still made me think more than should've had to.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Donger

From what I can tell so far, this video is an attempt to get white people to get a sense of what it's like to be discriminated against because of their eye color. Correct so far?

WATCH THE VID DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION(S)!!!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by wutamess

WATCH THE VID DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION(S)!!!

Don't get uppity.

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Another first hand experience...

We hire summer work usually family members of coworkers.
I suggested I had a cousin that'd be interested... immediately hey said it was limited to close family members.

It could be that I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. But the way it was said made me think in my mind that they don't know what to expect from my cousin and maybe he's a mistake waiting to happen. I left it alone because it wasn't a battle worth fighting but it still made me think more than should've had to.

you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

people are people, there is nothing you can do to change them or the way they think/feel/act. complaining won't change it. in fact, i'd venture to say that complaining will just get you more riled up in the long run.

look at our respective sprint careers. both of us started in a similar place, both of us ended up at the same place before getting canned. diaz still has his job and he's a mexican, therefore i'm getting discriminated against.

Originally Posted by wutamess

They were more concerned with your tight ass shorts than your slang.
They were thinking, "who's the wigga in the tight shorts? They don't go together".

I don't know 'bout all that, yo. KnowwhatI'msayin?

One time I had a friend working for me on a basement project. He happened to be black. The homeowner was displeased about something or other and had come down more than once and dressed me down in front of my friend/worker.

Finally, I had enough and I let him know that I didn't appreciate being disrespected in front of "the help".

That was the end of my friendship with this guy. Was it because he thought I was being racist or because he didn't think I valued our friendship enough? I have yet to figure that mystery out and he refused to elaborate.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Threads like this make me realize just how ****ing STUPID the general population is. Congratulations folks.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Shit yeah, hear hear! It's about time people just admit that while they may not hate people, they do have pre-conceived notions and prejudices, and you don't have to be white to be an offender and you don't have to be black to be a victim of it.

I suspect that it is more prevalent among whites to ACT on their prejudice, but I really don't believe we have the market cornered on prejudice itself.

The problem is some people, granted ignorant people, who feel there is no problem at all. If you watch the film the white aristocratic woman just thinks its all ridiculous and there is no problem at all. SHE is the problem and the definite racist of the group.

I play in a all black (virtually) flag football league in the hood. I get treated differently because I am a minority there. I get hit extra hard and I'm sure several black guys think its funny blowing up the cracker. So I can see for a couple hours a week what its like. Inchiefshell has seen what its like for 5 minutes and doesn't like it.

The idea of the video is to imagine what a lifetime of that would be like, and really how arbitrary eye color is and when you think of it skin color to judge someone on.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Phobia

One time I had a friend working for me on a basement project. He happened to be black. The homeowner was displeased about something or other and had come down more than once and dressed me down in front of my friend/worker.

Finally, I had enough and I let him know that I didn't appreciate being disrespected in front of "the help".

That was the end of my friendship with this guy. Was it because he thought I was being racist or because he didn't think I valued our friendship enough? I have yet to figure that mystery out and he refused to elaborate.

I can see plenty of people finding offense with you referring to your ummmmmmmm subcontractor, laborer, whateverthehellhewas as "the help"...

Normally used by uppity rich white people to refer to their domestic staff.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Phobia

One time I had a friend working for me on a basement project. He happened to be black. The homeowner was displeased about something or other and had come down more than once and dressed me down in front of my friend/worker.

Finally, I had enough and I let him know that I didn't appreciate being disrespected in front of "the help".

That was the end of my friendship with this guy. Was it because he thought I was being racist or because he didn't think I valued our friendship enough? I have yet to figure that mystery out and he refused to elaborate.

Probably a combination of things but I do think it would be easy to assume you were talking down to him and he may have felt it was because he was black and not just a very poor choice of words on your part.