Tamba Hali

[DeezNutz]

Has anyone seen him? His friends and family are worried.

What happened to our impact LB? The sack machine? The difference maker?

[Easy 6]

Thats fine, you guys win...if he's the 'complete' washout that you all say, i will admit it & eat a shit sandwich.

But its funny how quickly its forgotten, how well he played in 06...on a piss poor D, made occasionally effective, only by the presence of Jared Allen. Sure, Jared pulled all of the heat...but Tamba was going against the best players a given NFL team could find for the right side...when he made some exciting plays & picked up 8 sacks along the way.

I havent given up on the guy at his new position yet.

But please, carry on.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by scott free

Thats fine, you guys win...if he's the 'complete' washout that you all say, i will admit it & eat a shit sandwich.

But its funny how quickly its forgotten, how well he played in 06...on a piss poor D, made occasionally effective, only by the presence of Jared Allen. Sure, Jared pulled all of the heat...but Tamba was going against the best players a given NFL team could find for the right side...when he made some exciting plays & picked up 8 sacks along the way.

I havent given up on the guy at his new position yet.

But please, carry on.

I give him credit for effort, I have no doubts about him in that regard. I think some of us just have to admit to the fact that he is not good.

Clearly, he is a liability. And will a liability until this team can find someone who is better to replace him.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by scott free

Thats fine, you guys win...if he's the 'complete' washout that you all say, i will admit it & eat a shit sandwich.

But its funny how quickly its forgotten, how well he played in 06...on a piss poor D, made occasionally effective, only by the presence of Jared Allen. Sure, Jared pulled all of the heat...but Tamba was going against the best players a given NFL team could find for the right side...when he made some exciting plays & picked up 8 sacks along the way.

I havent given up on the guy at his new position yet.

But please, carry on.

Tamba Hali was playing in the position he should be playing in '06.

As you noted, he does have an initial quick burst, perfect for a LDE against a usually less athletic slower RT.

That quick burst is ineffective without the footspeed to get around the corner on the right side against the LT, however, especially if he's standing up in an OLB position.

That lack of foot speed is exactly the reason he failed so miserably as the RDE.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by milkman

Tamba Hali was playing in the position he should be playing in '06.

As you noted, he does have an initial quick burst, perfect for a LDE against a usually less athletic slower RT.

That quick burst is ineffective without the footspeed to get around the corner on the right side against the LT, however, especially if he's standing up in an OLB position.

That lack of foot speed is exactly the reason he failed so miserably as the RDE.

He is not a fit for this 3-4 defense. Its not gonna work with him. There shouldn't be a place for him on this roster.

[O.city]

I don't know if you guys actually noticed but......Glen Dorsey played very well Sunday.. He was in the backfield, stopping the run.... He's not a pash rush guy so didn't really look at that but overall he's played well so far this year.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't know if you guys actually noticed but......Glen Dorsey played very well Sunday.. He was in the backfield, stopping the run.... He's not a pash rush guy so didn't really look at that but overall he's played well so far this year.

Nah. If you look, he's on the Herm Edwards Toilet Bowl Memorial Team.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't know if you guys actually noticed but......Glen Dorsey played very well Sunday.. He was in the backfield, stopping the run.... He's not a pash rush guy so didn't really look at that but overall he's played well so far this year.

He did. He played his best game as a Chief imo. If he could do this on a continuous basis, and improve each week I'd be content with that.

[O.city]

Seriously how many people on here thought we would hold the Raiders running game under 100 yards? Tank even played well. Overall the defense played really well save the last posession. Run defense atleast. Dunno bout the pass. Russell is....well not good.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Seriously how many people on here thought we would hold the Raiders running game under 100 yards? Tank even played well. Overall the defense played really well save the last posession. Run defense atleast. Dunno bout the pass. Russell is....well not good.

Not many.

I know I was wrong. The defense can't be blamed for this loss.

However, something has to change regarding the lack of passrush, or the defense will shoulder plenty of blame down the road.

[O.city]

Yes that is true. You can't only get pressure by the blitz.. leavin the dbacks on islands and you will get burned. I really think Tyson Jackson can be a good pashrusher. not great but good. you get that to happen he starts gettin more bodies thrown his way and you get some one on ones then you have a chance. The guy is a rookie. someone once said Dlinemen need 2-3 years in the league to mature to the speed. guess we will find out.

[O.city]

I know it hurts to have lost that game especially to the RAiders but there is progress in this team. Gotta crawl before you can walk and the last two years we were....well def. not crawling let alone running. Had some mental errors that cost us the game this week. But if we would have played with the discipline we had in week one we win this game by 10 points or more.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Not many.

I know I was wrong. The defense can't be blamed for this loss.

However, something has to change regarding the lack of passrush, or the defense will shoulder plenty of blame down the road.

The defense can be blamed for this loss.

JaMarcuss Russell was awful. He wasn't awful because the Chiefs defense was awesome, series after series. It was because he ****ing sucks ass. If he had even been 15 of 24 instead of 7 of 24, the game wouldn't have been close.

If Tom Cable hadn't called the worst ****ing game I've ever seen, this game wouldn't have been close because he would have pounded the Chiefs with the run the entire game.

Lane Kiffen makes Tom Cable look like one of Jerry's Kids.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The defense can be blamed for this loss.

JaMarcuss Russell was awful. He wasn't awful because the Chiefs defense was awesome, series after series. It was because he ****ing sucks ass. If he had even been 15 of 24 instead of 7 of 24, the game wouldn't have been close.

If Tom Cable hadn't called the worst ****ing game I've ever seen, this game wouldn't have been close because he would have pounded the Chiefs with the run the entire game.

Lane Kiffen makes Tom Cable look like one of Jerry's Kids.

I'm so glad we have Nostradamus on this board.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I'm so glad we have Nostradamus on this board.

You disagree?

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You disagree?

There is absolutely NO evidence to support your claim. None.

You are simply making an assumption based on what you thought going into the game. The fact is we held the Raiders to a 2.7 YPC average for 25 carries. If they would have kept pounding the ball, and we would have kept holding them to that average, then it is a moot point. That is entirely possible. Same as your assumption that they would have improved their average and started breaking some long runs. THat is exactly what it is, an assumption. With absolutely no statistical or factual base.