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Old 06-23-2005, 02:06 AM  
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Gunther planning to use 3-4 defense in likely passing downs
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...de-scoop_x.htm

Chiefs defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham is the latest coach planning the 3-4 scheme as a sub package. Cunningham plans to implement the 3-4 in likely passing downs to maximize Kansas City's improved defensive speed.

I like the sound of this. Who do you think would normally be out there on defense in these situations?
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:55 AM   #106
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no, no, no...

sims can't move to mlb, that's rich's spot...

now, we do have a need at cb...
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:58 AM   #107
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In YOUR opinion he has two strikes against him.
IMO, he could become a solid NT.
No, not in my opinion. I don't hold the opinion that he's weak in the lower body. I'm merely pointing out that it was a concern of the scouts when he came out of college.

He's not a 3-4 NT, that's a fact. He might be able to learn it, but as of right now, he's a 4-3 NT. You countered that fact by saying that you thought he could overcome it with his strength. I only said that if those scouts were correct and he does lack lower-body strength, it will be HARDER for him to be a 3-4 NT, not easier.

My personal opinion is that I don't know what these guys are capable of, but considering how mightily they struggle with Gunther's base defense, I'm inclined to NOT pile on anything else for them to get confused with.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:58 AM   #108
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no, no, no...

sims can't move to mlb, that's rich's spot...

now, we do have a need at cb...
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:58 AM   #109
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I find this whole thing about Keyaron Fox a little mind-boggling. Last year, he didn't play at all. Now, everybody including the coaches are talking like the kid is going to be a starter, and at the very least playing this year. So, why wasn't he playing last year? Why would the Chiefs elect to use Quinton Caver over his a**? I don't get it.
Well, he was hurt last year. And he also got in Vermeil's doghouse. We all know how Crybaby handles such things.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:59 AM   #110
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Junior, meet Mr. Squat Rack. You two are gonna do a LOT of work together.
i dunno...

i'm kinda worried about that...

the samoan gossip mill doesn't think that junior and mr. squat rack have not spent a lot of time together so far...

apparently, they don't like each other...
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:01 PM   #111
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Well, he was hurt last year. And he also got in Vermeil's doghouse. We all know how Crybaby handles such things.
True about the injuries. I forgot about that. What did he do to get into Vermeil's doghouse?
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:02 PM   #112
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:02 PM   #113
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That’s not all that hard to cure.
Junior, meet Mr. Squat Rack. You two are gonna do a LOT of work together.
except for i've seen something before about Savaii not staying focused and doing more partying than working out.


could be bull ... but it could be the reason why savaii has yet to show any of the potiential the team raved about when they drafted him.




i still don't see how our defensive line coach still has a job
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:03 PM   #114
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No, not in my opinion. I don't hold the opinion that he's weak in the lower body. I'm merely pointing out that it was a concern of the scouts when he came out of college.

He's not a 3-4 NT, that's a fact. He might be able to learn it, but as of right now, he's a 4-3 NT. You countered that fact by saying that you thought he could overcome it with his strength. I only said that if those scouts were correct and he does lack lower-body strength, it will be HARDER for him to be a 3-4 NT, not easier.

My personal opinion is that I don't know what these guys are capable of, but considering how mightily they struggle with Gunther's base defense, I'm inclined to NOT pile on anything else for them to get confused with.
Cool. I really don't know if he can pull it off or not, but instinct tells me he can. He definitely has the size and strength to man the position. I agree, he could struggle early on as a NT, but I believe with added reps he could become a solid NT. Will it work? I don't know, but I'm hopeful he can make the transition because with our speed at LBer, I think it's a good idea to have the 3-4 package as an option and I see Junior as the long-term candidate for NT.
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In YOUR opinion he has two strikes against him.
IMO, he could become a solid NT.
What are you basing your opinion on?

It's a fact he had weak leg strength coming out of college. It's also a fact he doesn't have much football experience and zero experience with playing NT in a 3-4.
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No, not in my opinion. I don't hold the opinion that he's weak in the lower body. I'm merely pointing out that it was a concern of the scouts when he came out of college.

He's not a 3-4 NT, that's a fact. He might be able to learn it, but as of right now, he's a 4-3 NT. You countered that fact by saying that you thought he could overcome it with his strength. I only said that if those scouts were correct and he does lack lower-body strength, it will be HARDER for him to be a 3-4 NT, not easier.

My personal opinion is that I don't know what these guys are capable of, but considering how mightily they struggle with Gunther's base defense, I'm inclined to NOT pile on anything else for them to get confused with.
he's strong, but not nfl dt strong, in the lower body...

he got away with being strong (by college standards) and agile when he was in college, but never got into weight training like the dt who played beside him, olshanski or something like that...

now, as he is beginning to learn actual technique, he seems to get pushed around too much on too many plays and then looks real good on others...

i don't think he could play nt in a 3-4, but gun may have other ideas...

btw, don't get me wrong, i'm rooting for junior, big time; i'm just a little concerned about his attitude towards professional football...
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i dunno...

i'm kinda worried about that...

the samoan gossip mill doesn't think that junior and mr. squat rack have not spent a lot of time together so far...

apparently, they don't like each other...

Don’t blame him for not liking it, squats is a learned technique and he could easily injure himself if not doing it right.
But this is professional sports, if he can’t handle that he should be gone.
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except for i've seen something before about Savaii not staying focused and doing more partying than working out.


could be bull ... but it could be the reason why savaii has yet to show any of the potiential the team raved about when they drafted him.




i still don't see how our defensive line coach still has a job
unfortunately, i've heard the same things...
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i still don't see how our defensive line coach still has a job
Speaking of coaches, I don't see how our secondary coach has a job
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