****The Clyde Edwards-Helaire Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come! (I'll clean it up later - info dump into the OP)

(mod edit, all the goodness is in the spoiler tags)

Spoiler!

LET'S GEUAX!#NFLDraft on ESPN/ABC/NFLN pic.twitter.com/2dMSjTR9R9

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 24, 2020

Congratulations to my son. Mere words can’t explain the joy in my heart and soul. This was an EPIC moment & Well deserved. What GOD has for you ; it’s for you!❤️����
WE ARE CHIEFS ‼️❤️@Clydro_22 @NFL @NFLDraft @LSUfootball @Chiefs @Espn @SECNetwork pic.twitter.com/Pjo2SMLmM9

— Tonge' Helaire (@HelaireTonge) April 25, 2020

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 24, 2020

Some fun here. Edwards-Helaire rushed for 1,415 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior .. all-purpose yards -- receiving (55 receptions, 453 yards) and kick returner (KEY) 10 returns, 214 yards pic.twitter.com/3Duq1jjy6J

— Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) April 24, 2020

Oh look, an extensive film review of Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who I wrote a few days ago is a PERFECT fit for Andy Reid's offense.

Also... @jbbrisco... Oh man. Oh. Man. ��⚡️https://t.co/g6lbNonQ1o

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) April 24, 2020

With the 32nd pick, the #Chiefs select Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU

• PFF Big Board #4 RB, #81 Overall

• #1 Run Grade among NCAA RBs (92.0)

• Led SEC RBs in rush yards, receiving yards, rush TDs & YPC

• NFL Comparison: Ray Ricehttps://t.co/eQoKvEmIss#ChiefsKingdom

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) April 24, 2020

You got a good one, @chiefs

CLYDRO pic.twitter.com/WyxKVgwTwS

— LSU Football (@LSUfootball) April 24, 2020

Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.

— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) April 24, 2020

Brett Veach told Andy Reid to watch some Clyde Edwards-Helaire film and told Reid you’ll see Brian Westbrook. Reid watched. Then got back to Veach and said he’s better than Westbrook.

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 24, 2020

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Wtf is a bellcow in terms of RBs?

It is a RB that can "Moooove" the chains for a first down.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by JakeF

I'm pretty sure the stats say you're wrong.

Every carry he takes is a play he takes from Mahomes.
Every catch he makes is a catch taken from Kelce/Hill/Watkins
Every salary cap dollar he takes up is away from a more important position

When you have an elite QB, an RB is not really an important addition


Not my opinion, what the stat nerds say.

You do realize that a team is not stuck with a finite amount of downs right. If a team gets a First down- they are awarded 4 More downs. The more First downs you get- the better chance to score points.

So if you have a back like CEH that can pull first downs out of his hat like a magician- the offense is going to have More chances to score.

Did the draft nerds watch this offense struggle with short-yardage pickups for a majority of the season last year? If you Punt- you do not get more plays.

I hope that helps. First downs are Good on Offense- Punts are Bad.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

So you have to be a heavy back to win in short yardage situations?

I know, right? Was Marcus Allen a good short yardage back? Yep. How about Walter Payton? Yep. Priest Holmes? Yep. Barry Sanders? Yep. None of them were big backs. Marcus Allen was slender too, and could pick up 2-3 yards even when the entire defense knew he was getting the ball.

The days of Christian Okoye and Ron Dayne are pretty much over in the NFL.

CEH is going to take this offense back to the level they were playing at with Hunt, and by the end of the year our offense will be beyond even that.



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[Dante84]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I know, right? Was Marcus Allen a good short yardage back? Yep. How about Walter Payton? Yep. Priest Holmes? Yep. Barry Sanders? Yep. None of them were big backs. Marcus Allen was slender too, and could pick up 2-3 yards even when the entire defense knew he was getting the ball.

The days of Christian Okoye and Ron Dayne are pretty much over in the NFL.

CEH is going to take this offense back to the level they were playing at with Hunt, and by the end of the year our offense will be beyond even that.

Outside of Henry, who we broke on the way to becoming SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, I would agree with you.

[arrowheadnation]

I assume it's been talked about, but he apparently goes by Clydro?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by JakeF

I'm pretty sure the stats say you're wrong.

Every carry he takes is a play he takes from Mahomes.
Every catch he makes is a catch taken from Kelce/Hill/Watkins
Every salary cap dollar he takes up is away from a more important position

When you have an elite QB, an RB is not really an important addition


Not my opinion, what the stat nerds say.

Holy shit.........

Just HOLY SHIT...............

This has to be the most reeruned take I've ever seen.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Outside of Henry, who we broke on the way to becoming SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, I would agree with you.

I doubt it.

Running a phat back when you have an elite passing attack makes a lot of sense. Imagine a Bettis or Larry Johnson running for us now. Teams have to go nickel to stop Mahomes and co then those DB's get all beat up by a physical back.

I think it's the perfect combo...

[Redbled]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Which one of you let that chuckle **** out of the Romper Room? They deserve a good old Chiefsplanet dogpile for that horrific decision.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't know why ya'll don't just thumbs-down posts into oblivion* and move on... WTF would anyone want to attempt rationalization against "every time you give it to one really talented guy, another talented guy isn't getting the ball!", much less someone else opinion spamming the thread as long as people keep replying.

Not advocating for rep-war style BS, but still...



(*go ahead, just do it and get it over with....)

That or ignore. Much easier.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Holy shit.........

Just HOLY SHIT...............

This has to be the most reeruned take I've ever seen.

I would generally classify myself as a stat nerd, but the way some of them approach the RB position makes me embarrassed to be one.

Yes, there are multiple ways to find value at the RB spot. Yes, the passing game is more explosive and threatening, especially when you have a great QB and receiving unit.

But sometimes you need something more consistent and predictable than a pass play - to extend drives. You need balance to keep the defense from manipulating the matchup in its own favor. You need to be able to run to shorten games when you have a lead. You

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Wtf is a bellcow in terms of RBs?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

It is a RB that can "Moooove" the chains for a first down.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I doubt it.

Running a phat back when you have an elite passing attack makes a lot of sense. Imagine a Bettis or Larry Johnson running for us now. Teams have to go nickel to stop Mahomes and co then those DB's get all beat up by a physical back.

I think it's the perfect combo...

Bettis and Larry Johnson weren't a threat in the passing game for shit. You cant be a one dimensional back in this offense.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I would generally classify myself as a stat nerd, but the way some of them approach the RB position makes me embarrassed to be one.

Yes, there are multiple ways to find value at the RB spot. Yes, the passing game is more explosive and threatening, especially when you have a great QB and receiving unit.

But sometimes you need something more consistent and predictable than a pass play - to extend drives. You need balance to keep the defense from manipulating the matchup in its own favor. You need to be able to run to shorten games when you have a lead. You

Arguably the most important drive of the Championship game against the Titans was when Andy salted the 3rd quarter away with that 7 and a half minute 13 play drive to take a 28-17 lead in the 4th quarter. The Chiefs ran the ball on 10 of the 13 plays on that drive with Damien Williams picking up key first downs with tough running on multiple third and shorts.

When I re-watched the game with Romo's commentary. He pointed out how the Titans had 100% sold out to cover the pass and weren’t adjusting their D when Andy started running the ball. Romo said the Titans were too worried to adjust to the run despite Williams effectiveness in the 3rd. Romo wondered if Andy would stick to the run if the Titans didn't adjust to it, and to Andy's credit - he stuck to it. He never abandoned the run against the 49ers either.

With how critical the run was in the last two games of the season I'm amazed people are undervaluing the run and CEH this much - and if CEH proves to be an elite back who never fumbles, good luck to any defense at that point. Sell out against the pass? Andy will gas your defense by pounding the rock for 5-6 yards a carry. The 49ers D had been on the field by over 70 plays (29 of those runs) in the Super Bowl and it showed on the last Chiefs touchdown run.

One of the more surprising aspects of the 2019-2020 playoffs was that Andy showed he was willing to win with the run. The Titans and 49ers sold out completely to take away Patrick's deep options and limit big plays - if that becomes the "safest" bet against the Chiefs, that's where CEH could take over games. It's not as exciting as winning with the deep ball and putting up 50 points, but a 31-17 win with a more Vermeil like elite offense is still a win regardless.

[chiefzilla1501]

As great as our offense was Reid flat out didn't trust our running game in the regular season. Problem solved. And unlike hunt this guy can line up anywhere at receiver. Unlike Damien we can use him all year long for 3 downs. And Damien is no guarantee to stay after this year anyway.

Kareem wasn't a generational talent. But there's no doubt our offense while great was missing something last year.

Don't know how anyone can dislike this pick other than being a contrarian.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Arguably the most important drive of the Championship game against the Titans was when Andy salted the 3rd quarter away with that 7 and a half minute 13 play drive to take a 28-17 lead against the Titans. The Chiefs ran the ball on 10 of the 13 plays on that drive with Damien Williams picking up key first downs with tough running on multiple third and shorts.

When I re-watched the game with Romo's commentary. He pointed out how the Titans had 100% sold out to cover the pass and weren’t adjusting their D when Andy started running the ball. Romp said the Titans were too worried to adjust to the run despite Williams effectiveness in the 3rd. Romo wondered if Andy would stick to the run if the Titans didn't adjust to it, and to Andy's credit - he did. He never abandoned the run against the 49ers either.

With how critical the run was in the last two games of the season I'm amazed people are undervaluing the run and CEH this much - and if CEH proves to be an elite back who never fumbles, good luck to any defense at that point. Sell out against the pass? Andy will gas your defense by pounding the rock for 5-6 yards a carry. The 49ers D had been on the field by over 70 plays (29 of those runs) in the Super Bowl and it showed on the last Chiefs touchdown run.

One of the more surprising aspects of the 2019-2020 playoffs was that Andy showed he was willing to win with the run. The Titans and 49ers sold out completely to take away Patrick's deep options and limit big plays - if that becomes the "safest" bet against the Chiefs, that's where CEH could take over games. It's not as exciting as winning with the deep ball and putting up 50 points, but a 35-17 win is still a win regardless.

That was really brilliant by Andy. Not only did it take advantage of the Titans D - it burned a ton of clock and kept our defense from getting worn down against Henry. I was so happy at the time we were running the ball - shorten the game.