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Old 06-19-2023, 10:45 AM  
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Tourist(s) missing in submarine while trying to reach the Titannic

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A search and rescue operation is currently underway to locate a submarine that went missing during an expedition to the Titanic.
The U.S. Coast Guard was looking for the submarine Monday morning after it disappeared during the expedition from St. John's, N.L. The infamous 1912 wreck is located more than 600 kilometres southeast of the province in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The trip to the Titanic was being run by OceanGate Expeditions, a U.S.-based company. It uses a five-person submersible named Titan to reach the wreckage 3,800 metres below the surface. OceanGate's website advertises a seven-night voyage to the Titanic for US$250,000 per person, or approximately CA$330,000.
"We are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely," an OceanGate spokesperson said in an email to CTV News. "Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families."


Those tours are a series of five eight-day missions to the Titanic with the money raised by tourists going towards Titanic research. Posts on social media show the ship launched from the St. John's area last week.

Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version??



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Old 06-23-2023, 12:00 AM   #886
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There is speculation that the Titan was decending too fast, Rush radioed that they were dropping too fast and supposedly that was at 2500 feet. They tried to slow the descent down but didn’t work thus hitting the bottom hard. Whether it imploded or bounced off the floor then imploded, who knows.
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Old 06-23-2023, 01:16 AM   #887
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There is speculation that the Titan was decending too fast, Rush radioed that they were dropping too fast and supposedly that was at 2500 feet. They tried to slow the descent down but didn’t work thus hitting the bottom hard. Whether it imploded or bounced off the floor then imploded, who knows.
They had a million ways to drop ballast and shoot to the surface. This seems unlikely.
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:16 AM   #888
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There is speculation that the Titan was decending too fast, Rush radioed that they were dropping too fast and supposedly that was at 2500 feet. They tried to slow the descent down but didn’t work thus hitting the bottom hard. Whether it imploded or bounced off the floor then imploded, who knows.
They lost communications and data from the transponder at the same time. During the descent. The transponder is a self sealed individually pressure tested unit independent of the rest of the submersible.

Speculation is that the implosion damaged the transponder resulting in loss of contact.

The Navy detected implosion sounds at the same time they lost coms. Evidently some "Top Secret" undersea listening bullshit.

They were dead before they hit the bottom. The rest of this, well, it was just a dog and pony show.
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:25 AM   #889
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The transponder is a self sealed individually pressure tested unit independent of the rest of the submersible.
This thing was assembled by a combination of JB weld, bailing wire, and duct tape. You really believe that?
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:35 AM   #890
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What's the deepest depths you've dived?
I can say that I've been beyond 800 feet. I was on sturgeon class submarines and the one-of-a-kind USS Narwhal (a very unique Sturgeon class boat), and that class' rated test depth 1,300 to 1,600 feet.

Honestly, we didn't spend too much of our time "deep", it's sort of pointless unless you're looking for something in that layer, frequently put us in thermal layers that weren't optimal for our operation, and really was stress on parts of the boat that just weren't necessary for the mission.
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:35 AM   #891
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This thing was assembled by a combination of JB weld, bailing wire, and duct tape. You really believe that?
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I worked with a sub guy. The shit he told me was frankly awful. 18-hour days (as opposed to the normal 24), no foreign port visits because boomers can't go to foreign ports, and that's in addition to the no sunlight or contact with anybody for months. So basically no booze, no hookers, no sight-seeing in exotic foreign countries, no magnificent sunrises over the ocean. Basically all the good things I experienced just... not available. But you still get all the military bullshit.

**** that.
Actually the 18-hour days weren't bad IMO, but that've changed that (watch the video below, it's very cool). I didn't mind it because my regular job (Fire Control), if we were in a busy place, was enough after tracking everything sonar was hearing and sending us. And once you're underwater, I'm not sure 24-hour days really much matter.

And yes, Boomers FUKING SUCK! Any submarine that needs two crews and is ultimately run by the Air Force is, well, SUCKS!

Unless we were under the ice, we'd make regular trips near the surface for query the satellites for message traffic, including those silly family-gram things. And the idea of looking at 26 miles of nothing like skimmers do, dealing with the seas, a hull that's always rotting because of salt spray, the "protocol" they have to follow in skimmers (LOL at the "blue tile" decks!!!), I'll take subs any day. That said, we were special operation boats, so we had it even better. We spent a LOT of time at sea, but that's about the worst thing.

And we did get port calls. They weren't the usual ports that skimmers go to, but I'll take La Maddalena, Toulon, and Faslane over the like of Naples.

It was different, but on balance, from what I saw the skimmers dealing with, I felt lucky.



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Maybe there's some tech I don't know of and it allows carbon fiber to be inspected for internal flaws.

Does anyone know if the other deep dive operations are using carbon fiber?
Saw Mr. Titanic himself, James Cameron on CNN. He said no other deep dives like this. Every hull that is legally approved is made of some kind of steel. Took 7 years for him him to get approval for his one person sub to go down and look at the Titanic. Cameron said even though it was fully approved, he would never have allowed anyone else to take that risk.

Cameron said it was a 100% chance that eventually the sub shell made with pressed carbon fiber will weaken like any metal weakens over time. The pressures on that metal will speed up the molecular decay and collapse.
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Cameron said even though it was fully approved, he would never have allowed anyone else to take that risk.
Bullshit. I bet he had a hooker with him
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The kid is the only one I feel bad for. These guys were rich af from businesses and none of thought this was a really bad idea? Just a stupid way to die.
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The kid is the only one I feel bad for. These guys were rich af from businesses and none of thought this was a really bad idea? Just a stupid way to die.
Some people sit on the couch and watch. Some people want to lay their nuts on the mountain top. Some would say only one of the two have actually lived.

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