What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[TLO]

I was in the camp most of the season in saying that these guys are going to get on the same page, and eventually the deep shots will start hitting.

After today, I'm not sure this is the case.

Is this an offensive line issue? Just not enough time for Mahomes to set and fire an accurate deep ball?

Is it an WR issue? We have 1 burner in Worthy, but the rest of our receivers are slow.

Is it a Mahomes issue?

Someone smarter than me tell me what's going on.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

I hate to say the dreaded word... Yips... Patrick has the yips. When he is thinking about what he is doing instead of reacting to the play, it becomes mechanical and forced. It's like a golfer standing over a chip shot; the practice swing is smooth and when the actual shot occurs, the real swing is short and choppy. I believe he will get out of it.

Nonsense.

[Demonpenz]

What has happened to D drop

[kccrow]

Mahomes is his own worst enemy right now. He's dropping his eyes to the rush. He's playing sloppy with his mechanics. He's pressing and not going through reads. All kinds of shit. Then you get the added bonus of actual pressure and the issues there and bam... shit sandwich.

The only way I see Mahomes breaking out of this funk is either A) Humphries somehow ends up the savior we all want and Mahomes' jersey stays clean for a couple of weeks in a row or B) the playoffs hit and Mahomes somehow flips a switch into "**** it" mode and just starts playing street ball again. If neither of those happen, I don't see the playoffs going as we hope because this shit is a straight-up disaster right now.

[cl.brooklyn]

The problem with him being so football smart and seeing everything is he might be processing stuff that’s not happened yet, but could be one or two ticks away. Some might call that ghosts, but I think that takes a negative connotation, and this shouldn’t. His anticipation of off the charts and he’s like Dr. Strange seeing the tens of millions of outcomes at once.

Mahomes is out there playing chess and seeing the pieces on the field move several steps ahead and not only is he trying to anticipate and manipulate the defense, he’s got to factor in some of the offensive shortcomings on line and in the WR corps. He can do it all, but it’s probably overloading him and causing a short circuit at times.


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[SHOWTIME]

Deep balls require a great deal of pass protection...more so than dink and dunk passes.

[Delano]

“Do we have time to run WASP?”

No Patrick. You don’t have time to run anything deep.

[O.city]

It's all just off, but it happens. All the greats inevitably have a meh year or two.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Mahomes is his own worst enemy right now. He's dropping his eyes to the rush. He's playing sloppy with his mechanics. He's pressing and not going through reads. All kinds of shit. Then you get the added bonus of actual pressure and the issues there and bam... shit sandwich.

The only way I see Mahomes breaking out of this funk is either A) Humphries somehow ends up the savior we all want and Mahomes' jersey stays clean for a couple of weeks in a row or B) the playoffs hit and Mahomes somehow flips a switch into "**** it" mode and just starts playing street ball again. If neither of those happen, I don't see the playoffs going as we hope because this shit is a straight-up disaster right now.

I wouldn’t call it a disaster. It’s still obviously good enough to win close games against even good teams. We can win ugly when our defense inevitably snaps back into shape for the playoff stretch. And our offense will undoubtedly improve to at least “good enough” as Humphreys and dhop get worked in.

We mostly need a few games of consistency and reliability and it will click again for mahomes. Humphreys obviously helps. I know people want to say thuney was lockdown but mahomes needs to see a few games of it and we put so much into chip help this game and that really limits what we can do with receiving targets. Hollywood helps way more than I think we give credit for. I like worthy but he’s just too inexperienced to heal a broken qb. What we’ve been missing for a few years is a guy who can adjust and catch up to a deep ball. Someone called it over the shoulder, but I think of it as more a guy who can hit that second gear when the ball is a little overthrown. For whatever reason it doesn’t feel like that mahomes worthy connection has worked yet but I think it will with Hollywood until Mahomes gets a full offseason of work with worthy

[stevieray]

Offense hasn't been the same without Rice.

They haven't overcome that loss yet.

Moving your all pro guard to play tackle is going to effect the run game.

Reid said that was Caliendo's first full game at guard.

That said, with the lead and the game winding down, running the ball takes more time off the clock. Even if you don't get a first down.

Thankfully the D/ST's are playing really well.

[O.city]

Yeah, they had to play their LG at LT and it wasn't an absolute disaster. Got in, got a double digit win, got out.

The Rice loss just isn't talked about like it should be (Hollywood too).

[Sassy Squatch]

Mahomes was playing some pretty bad football even with Rice. Actually may have been his worst stretch of the year. Suamataia getting annihilated by the Bengals ****ed his confidence something fierce.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Offense hasn't been the same without Rice.

They haven't overcome that loss yet.

Moving your all pro guard to play tackle is going to effect the run game.

Reid said that was Caliendo's first full game at guard.

That said, with the lead and the game winding down, running the ball takes more time off the clock. Even if you don't get a first down.

Thankfully the D/ST's are playing really well.

Eh I don’t know about that. When rice was here mahomes developed tunnel vision. And our offense was built around long dink and dunk drives. It worked end of last year but we make too many mistakes on offense for this to be sustainable. If we trust in veach he knew the best way to unlock Mahomes again was to get him some speed threats. That’s why he brought in not 1 but 2 speed threats. I like rashee as a player more than Hollywood, but Hollywood was the loss that really hurt.. for the time being given mahomes’ current issues

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Mahomes was playing some pretty bad football even with Rice. Actually may have been his worst stretch of the year. Suamataia getting annihilated by the Bengals ****ed his confidence something fierce.

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

[O.city]

Yeah, he focused on Rice, he was always open.

This whole "spread it around to weapons" thing alot of times is speak for "we don't have anyone good so throw it to everyone".

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

It feels like a ping pong match. Teams foiled us with 2 deep, we adjusted the next year, defenses adjusted to us which opened up offenses for throw chuckers like stroud and tua, teams throttled back into 2 deep this year.