Chiefs Does anyone know Vrabel's 40 time? - Page 6

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 07:47 AM

I personally believe that Tamba Hali will be an absolute stud in the 3-4 defense. I think he is similar to Mike Vrabel in that he never gives up on a play. He is very active and gives himself fully to the cause.

I have read that Hali is 'too slow'. Does anyone know what Vrabel's 40 yard dash time was? Or any of his drills? I am just wondering how they stack up to Hali's.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:29 AM

Hali can't take on OT's 1-on-1. But he's played serviceably in the past at DE.

I have no reason to believe he can't be a backup/situational OLB in the 3-4. Every guy on this team can't be a Tier 1 starter. You need roleplayers. Sure, it would have been nice if we hadn't spent a 1st-round pick on a roleplayer, but them's the breaks. It happens.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Because he runs like a slug.

And he can't cover TE's.

So what? He can still run downhill and get to the QB, especially if he doesn't have to take on blockers every down. And he does have a knack for stripping the ball.

There's a place on this team for Hali.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:31 AM

I don't know how you could ever put him on the field as a 3-4 OLB, he can't beat an OT 1-1 on him in coverage is painful to watch because he's not athletic or fast.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't know how you could ever put him on the field as a 3-4 OLB, he can't beat an OT 1-1 on him in coverage is painful to watch because he's not athletic or fast.

As a situational rusher in blitz packages.

It's not like the guy has no sacks for his career. He outperformed Jared Allen his rookie year. You can't act like he's done NOTHING - that's not true.

Ralphy Boy · 03-02-2009, 10:38 AM

Here is some draft info on Hali if anyone wants to look at it. They reference him being capable of playing LB in a 3-4.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/4660.html

He was a disappointment last year on defense, but who wasn't? You go from 7.5 sacks in 2007 to 3 in 08 and its natural for people to think you've slipped. Not having Allen on the other side certainly allows offenses to load up the line against your only real pass rusher.

For those who say its time for him to go, get real. That is foolish talk, you don't just get rid of a guy just because of one year, especially not a first round draft pick when you already got rid of the defensive coordinator. Everyone on defense underachieved, you can't make excuses for Dorsey and not for Hali, who has proven more at this point than Dorsey.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:40 AM

Hali has been on the team for 3 years not 1....and he's ALWAYS injured, that's the 1 thing he's good at.

Mr. Krab · 03-02-2009, 10:41 AM

I don't even know if there is a position that Hali can play in a 3-4. He might just end up getting cut. He was tried at a RDE pass rusher and failed completely and he's not particularly strong at the run at LDE in a 4-3.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

I don't even know if there is a position that Hali can play in a 3-4. He might just end up getting cut. He was tried at a RDE pass rusher and failed completely and he's not particularly strong at the run at LDE in a 4-3.

His biggest problem is he's not really good at anything, there's nothing he excels at, he tries hard and tends to get injured.

crazycoffey · 03-02-2009, 10:49 AM

cracking me up, every other post is "injuried" - I got your opinion Mecca, that's great - now go scurry along and cry about not being able to draft Sanchez. Many players play with bumps and bruises, how many games has Hali missed over the last three years?

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:50 AM

Why do people like shitty players?

crazycoffey · 03-02-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why do people like shitty players?

I don't know, why do you like sanchez?

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Hali has been on the team for 3 years not 1....and he's ALWAYS injured, that's the 1 thing he's good at.

He's not hurt any more often than Antonio Cromartie.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:53 AM

What the **** does Mark Sanchez have to do with Tamba Hali and his inability to do a god damn thing, being an end on the a team that just set the record for the worst pass rush ever is qualification enough to be told to go away and not come back.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's not hurt any more often than Antonio Cromartie.

When he produces like Cromartie we can overlook that

Groves · 03-02-2009, 10:59 AM

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03-02-2009, 07:47 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Does anyone know Vrabel's 40 time? I personally believe that Tamba Hali will be an absolute stud in the 3-4 defense. I think he is similar to Mike Vrabel in that he never gives up on a play. He is very active and gives himself fully to the cause. I have read that Hali is 'too slow'. Does anyone know what Vrabel's 40 yard dash time was? Or any of his drills? I am just wondering how they stack up to Hali's.
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03-02-2009, 10:29 AM	#76
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $9309900	Hali can't take on OT's 1-on-1. But he's played serviceably in the past at DE. I have no reason to believe he can't be a backup/situational OLB in the 3-4. Every guy on this team can't be a Tier 1 starter. You need roleplayers. Sure, it would have been nice if we hadn't spent a 1st-round pick on a roleplayer, but them's the breaks. It happens.
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03-02-2009, 10:31 AM	#78
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $367050	I don't know how you could ever put him on the field as a 3-4 OLB, he can't beat an OT 1-1 on him in coverage is painful to watch because he's not athletic or fast.
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03-02-2009, 10:38 AM	#80
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Here is some draft info on Hali if anyone wants to look at it. They reference him being capable of playing LB in a 3-4.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/4660.html He was a disappointment last year on defense, but who wasn't? You go from 7.5 sacks in 2007 to 3 in 08 and its natural for people to think you've slipped. Not having Allen on the other side certainly allows offenses to load up the line against your only real pass rusher. For those who say its time for him to go, get real. That is foolish talk, you don't just get rid of a guy just because of one year, especially not a first round draft pick when you already got rid of the defensive coordinator. Everyone on defense underachieved, you can't make excuses for Dorsey and not for Hali, who has proven more at this point than Dorsey.
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03-02-2009, 10:40 AM	#81
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $367050	Hali has been on the team for 3 years not 1....and he's ALWAYS injured, that's the 1 thing he's good at.
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03-02-2009, 10:41 AM	#82
Mr. Krab Big Red Nuts Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $10004900	I don't even know if there is a position that Hali can play in a 3-4. He might just end up getting cut. He was tried at a RDE pass rusher and failed completely and he's not particularly strong at the run at LDE in a 4-3.
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03-02-2009, 10:49 AM	#84
crazycoffey .......... Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $4367901	cracking me up, every other post is "injuried" - I got your opinion Mecca, that's great - now go scurry along and cry about not being able to draft Sanchez. Many players play with bumps and bruises, how many games has Hali missed over the last three years?
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03-02-2009, 10:50 AM	#85
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $367050	Why do people like shitty players?
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03-02-2009, 10:53 AM	#88
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $367050	What the **** does Mark Sanchez have to do with Tamba Hali and his inability to do a god damn thing, being an end on the a team that just set the record for the worst pass rush ever is qualification enough to be told to go away and not come back.
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03-02-2009, 10:59 AM	#90
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